Releiving Letter

[Zoom1234]

Hi,

recently i have changed my job.
The compnay i have joined is very big comapared to my previous company.
At the time of interview, the HR person asked me how soon i could join the organisation to which i replied 2 weeks as that is the period i needed to let the earlier company know that i am leaving.
The HR pressurise me that i have to join in two days otherwise they will look for other candidate.I agreed because i had no option.
I lost my months pay in previous company beacuase i had not given enough notice period and lost good relationships with the earlier employers.
Now my present company is asking for a relieving letter from my previous company.
I dont think my previous employer will issue that to me as the relations are not good enough.
What shd i do in such case?

 

[Grenage]

I would ask for a letter, and if they will not give you one then explain to your new employer the reason/s why.

I would view 2 days as being very unreasonable personally but I don't run a company

 

[carrr]

Personally, I think your new employer sets a dangerous precedent. I suppose they don't care if departing employees give them 2 days notice on their way out? I'm not sure how inclined I'd be to give you a letter if I were your previous employer, but you'll only know by asking.

 

[CajunCenturion]

Why would the HR person pressure you so?

The fact they pressured you so should tell you something about that company and their "people-orientation" priorities.

The fact that you buckled under that pressure, tells the company something about you.

As far as the relieving letter from your previous employer, you should do nothing. If you are asked why, then you should respond along the lines of "the fact that this company pressured me to leave them in two days, instead of the usual two weeks, resulted in complete loss of personal relationship, and fosted animosity between them and me, and therefore, my presence would only aggravate any attempt on your part to deal with them."

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[dgillz]

To me the bigger issue is your previous employer. Just because you leff on 2 days notice, or for that matter 2 seconds notice, does not give your previous employer the right to not pay you for a month's worth of work.

Get on them ASAP and get your money!

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[Zoom1234]

Thanks you all for your valuable responses.

If i would be in my previous employers place, probabaly i wouldnt have give the releiving letter.
I, in no way, could blame my previous employer for that.

I couldnt resist the offer, even though i felt that 2 days notice is of small period because i was in need of good job.
I know its not proper.
I can take a chance by asking for a letter and salary to my previous employer, but frankly speaking ,i dont wish to listen to any bad words my previous employer would give me.

The question is whom shd i approach for this issue?
Will it be HR of the current employer and tell them that i just cant get releiving letter or shd i ask the previous employer ? If i get it its well and good.

Thank you again to all of you.

 

[Chance1234]

dont know what side of the pond you are on, but in the UK,
you cant actually give someone a bad reference,



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[Grenage]

True but you can refuse to give one, which employers view as the same thing.

 

[lionelhill]

I'm not sure that's totally true. You cannot lie in a reference, but if you state bald undisputable truths without attaching value judgements, it's hard to see how you can be done for it later. Attendance data are an example. Who's to judge what "bad" is in a reference?

Incidentally, bad references have never had the desired effect. On the odd occasion I've met one, I've usually drawn more conclusions about the disreputable character who wrote the thing than I have about the unfortunate who received it.

 

[rudejohn]

If I had "ditched" my previous company like that, I wouldn't want to go back as a supplicant to ask them for anything either. Don't worry about the month's pay. (a) You usually AGREE to forfeit it if you don't give proper notice, and (b) If your new job is THAT much better, then the money isn't important.

I would recommend going to your NEW employer's HR and telling them that because they put you in such a difficult situation, you do not feel comfortable going back and asking for such a letter. They should be very understanding, and if they REALLY want that letter, let THEM go back and ask for it.

Most potential employers will ask for a letter BEFORE giving you the offer; obviously, this company felt strongly enough about you to give you the offer without. Why would they need it now, that you're already working there? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "relieving letter."

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[harebrain]

If you're in the US, it would be illegal for the previous employer to deny you your pay for any reason. (Can you say, "indentured servitude?&quot In some states, you might even be able to collect punitive damages for their failure to pay.

Get a lawyer.