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You have to wonder how long it took them to wrestle up the nomenclature to yield the clever acronym.
 
"gave a bad name to the ... enhancement business. "

LOL You've got to be kidding me!!!

I hate those pop-ups and the extortionist programs that are sold to stop them.
 
Any "44-year-old computer programmer" whose spam-coping mechanisms consist of appealing to and then threatening the spammer gives a bad name to the programming business.
 
What I always wonder is how this plays into free speech? I don't mind the spam, I can easily identify and delete it without any interruption in my normal email checking process. However pop-ups I abhor. I am always trying to click on or read something and it gets in the way.

I guess at this point I simply see it as a harmless by product of wanting to use e-mail or the web or even snail mail and the phone. Kind of driving on the freeway. Just because there are idiots out there, doesn't mean I stop driving, or find a way to shoot out their tires. :)
 
The U.S. courts have found that speech cannot be considered protected when it is used to commit illegal acts. I think the same should be true for unethical act -- but I don't know the courts' position on this.


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That is a very dangerous thing you are asking slepnir....

Having the courts determine what is ethical and what is not...

Blue [dragon]

If I wasn't Blue, I would just be a Dragon...
 
As of today, it is illegal to send spam to private individuals within the EU, within certain constraints.


General consensus seems to be that it is unenforceable outside the EU, and even some EU countries (including France and Germany) have not ratified this legislation yet.

John
 
You said speech is not protected when used to commit an illegal act, and it should be true for an unethical act.

Who do you want to determine what is and what is not ethical?



Blue [dragon]

If I wasn't Blue, I would just be a Dragon...
 
In general, I honestly don't know.

In terms of spam and the two links I provided? In the first link, the acttion of the spammers is illegal, and thus unethical.

In the second, I believe that if a spammer using that technique were to answer honestly, he himself would admit it is unethical.

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I am not sure if spoofing is illegal, but spoofing for illegal information is...

I do agree with you that on the illegal actions, and I do wish spam would disappear :)

I know that illegal and ethical go hand in hand, but what some believe that is unethical may be legal and ethical to some. So, to recant on what I said earlier, do we wnat the courts to decide ethical issues? Well, I guess in a sense they do. (along with legislation and such).

When I first read your post, I just had a grand vision of Big Brother :)

So, I guess we can add another item to the list that we can expect... death, taxes, and spam...

This issue will be arouond for a long time I am afraid...



Blue [dragon]

If I wasn't Blue, I would just be a Dragon...
 
The core problem with antispam legislation as I see it is that spamming was invented by a couple of lawyers. And laws are generally written by lawyers.

You ever know of a lawyer that was willing to interfere in another lawyer's personal business?

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True, very true...




Blue [dragon]

If I wasn't Blue, I would just be a Dragon...
 
You know what would be fun?

To be in the presence of Lawrence Cantor or Martha Siegel should either of them complain about the amout of spam they get every day.

My mind boggles at the number of possible responses...


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[hammer] Now that would make my head hurt :)

If I was in the presence of that I think my head would just explode.



Blue [dragon]

If I wasn't Blue, I would just be a Dragon...
 
jrbarnett,

I hope some of this is just clumsy (inaccurate?) reporting. For it to be a "criminal" offence rather than a mere civil one seems a bit heavy. And if we were to take
"The laws make it a criminal offence to send e-mails or text messages unless the recipient has agreed in advance to accept them"
at its word, then unfortunately I'd have to phone my mother to check she doesn't mind me sending her an e-mail, which seems a little over the top?

Also the quote
Of course there are no honest spammers - the whole profession is based on deceit
is a hideous disservice to the people who send me (at work) targetted sales messages by e-mail, for products that I might conceivably want to buy. In what way are they worse than those who send me brochures through the post? I'd rather have the e-mail than the waste of paper.
 
Lionelhill,

Just found this:

It appears to be a little more independent than the BBC article, but covers the same story.

All I can say is that if you think the £5000 fine for unsolicited email is harsh, Italy's legislation allows up to 3 year prison sentences, according to the above article.

John
 
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