Quick CSS question about scrollbar effects

[jewel464g]

Recently I was informed that my site's scroll bar doesn't work in Netscape, personally I don't care, but this person asked me why it didn't and if there was a way to change the code so it would work in netscape. Now this made me think and suddenly I think I care Anyone got any answers? I've looked around on google but haven't found anything that works. I did see a paragraph that talked about Netscape not allowing people to change things like that.

Here's a link to the site.

http://www.scriptchick.com

and here is the simple code

<style TYPE=&quot;text/css&quot; MEDIA=screen
<!--
body {scrollbar-face-color: #0030A5 }
-->
</style

http://www.scriptchick.com/

When faced with a decision, always ask, 'Which would be the most fun?'

 

[humbleprogrammer]

Netscape doesn't support scrollbar-face-color. It's only supported in IE5 or above.

 

[4x4uk]

And as far as I can remember if you want to validate with html4 (Strict) the scrollbar formatting is not supported.
Regards
Ian

Infinity exists! - I just haven't worked out a way to get there yet.

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[theocraticmind]

I'm sure, if you cared enough, you could pull it off with dhtml. Have no real scrollbar, and use some slyly positioned divs with some draging code, and page position altering. But honestly, It's probably not worth the effeort.

 

[JavaStripped]

I agree, probably not worth the effort. But yes, the scrollbar styling properties (there are a few of them; do a search for &quot;CSS&quot; on Microsoft's web site for a complete list) are IE-only and aren't even part of the CSS standards anywhere (and don't look to become part of CSS3 anytime soon either). Basically, you have to decide whether to design for standards or for bells and whistles that most users (if recent browser preference statistics are to be believed) can use anyway. I jumped on the IE bandwagon shortly after learning how much more flexible JavaScript event handling was in IE compared to Netscape.

I can't remember who, but someone once said that statistics were the third and greatest form of falsehood (although not in those exact words). The real problem with statistics is that 97.315% of them are fabrications.


JavaStripped
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[JavaStripped]

BTW: jewel464g: Cool site! Keep the scrollbar colors!
looks way better than , even with the shades.
But then, I've been told that I'm weird, so maybe I'll just let you make that decision for yourself... about the colors, not whether or not I'm weird.

JavaStripped
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[ChrisHunt]

> I can't remember who, but someone once said that statistics were the third and greatest form of falsehood (although not in those exact words).

&quot;There are lies, damned lies and statistics&quot; - Benjamin Disraeli (later quoted by Mark Twain)

-- Chris Hunt
Extra Connections Ltd

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[jewel464g]

Thanks everyone for your input. I think I'm back to the not caring stage again As long as it looks cool in one browser that's fine with me.

Jewel

http://www.scriptchick.com/

When faced with a decision, always ask, 'Which would be the most fun?'

 

[JabbaTheNut]

jewel464g,

How do you keep the scrollbar visible when the page does not overflow (i.e. your home page has the scrollbar without the slider)?

Game Over, Man!

 

[Vragabond]

JabbaTheNut, isn't the slider everpresent in IE? At least I have never seen it go away.

jewel464g , as for your question, I would say that if you want to do w3 standards compliant page, don't alter the scrollbar as it was stated before, those properties are not part of the standard. If not, you can alter the scrollbar and only IE users (the majority) will see them. And if people start asking you why it does not work, you just tell them it is a IE only thing.