Placing Text 4

[beejcline]

I try to place text from a Word file into PM and I get an error:

Cannot place this file
File contains invalid data
8601:29766
OR
Cannot place this file
Internal error: Bad file type
8601:16406

I checked that the filters for Word have been installed and they appear to be. Any other thoughts? I'm new to PM so this may be an easy one for most of you.

 

[viol8ion]

The easiest way is to save that word document or that portion of text as an RTF file. Then you go to File>Place and bring in that document. That will preserve the formatting without bringing in conflicting Word styles to Pagemaker. When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.

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[Guest_imported]

I have the same error and #(8601:29766) only Pagemaker 6.5 won't Place any jpegs into the document. Help!

 

[viol8ion]

ThunDar..

You are probably trying to place a progressive JPG, which PM will not accept. Either open the JPG and save as, and uncheck 'progressive scan' option when you save.. or save as a TIFF which is preferable.

The only 2 image formats that you should use are TIFF and EPS, anything else may give you lesser quality on the final product, or will cause problems such as you are experiencing. When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.

http://www.wuli.com

 

[Guest_imported]

I get the same error in pagemaker 7 even with tiff, .psd, etc. This is only with files stored on the network. If we copy the files to the c drive they are inserted fine.

 

[viol8ion]

Hadley,

The best advice is to work locally.. if you must save your files over a network, it is still better to copy them to your HD and work locally, save locaaly and then copy back.

PM can work over a network, but everything has to be configured properly and it has to be prisitine, and even then you may encounter problems. When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.

http://www.wuli.com

 

[Eggles]

I would just like to add my own experiences here. I find that the best way to bring in text from a Word doc is to copy and paste totally unformatted text, then apply the PM styles. If I try and *place* the text, invariably Word styles will come in with it, and some will more than likely conflict with PM styles, and the PM doc gets corrupted.

 

[viol8ion]

I agree and disagree. I always save Word docs as RTF and then place the doc. This helps prevent unwanted or conflicting Word styles from coming in. But I would caution against copy/pasting Word text, I have had documents corrupt and I suspect this was the cause. and I have heard too many horror stories, especially with doc that are going to press. if all you are doing is printing to an office printer, then copy/paste will probably be okay, but why take the chance? When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.

http://www.wuli.com

 

[Eggles]

Point taken. In future I will try it as you suggested, but I would still rather not bring in any Word formatting. So I guess I could just save as TXT instead of RTF?

 

[viol8ion]

TXT would be even better, some people I know convert to RTF,paste to notepad and then bring that in... any but .doc! When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.

http://www.wuli.com

 

[RLie]

Pagemaker7.0.1 and windowsXp pro
I try to place jpg or gif or tif (or whatever) in my pagemaker doc and get randomly the internal error: Bad filetype 8601:16406 or when trying to update an already existing image in the doc i get 8902:16406 (what is about the same error). Repeating this action several times will finally work (like i wrote it seems random)
I am NOT using the network and work on a local machine with local graphic files.
Can anyone help me on this one?

 

[viol8ion]

Do NOT use Gif or JPGs with PM. While they may work, the only 2 file types that are appropriate are TIFF or EPS, or you can use the native PS or Illy files (.psd and .ai). Progressive JPGs will cause you no end of problems, and Gifs are not an appropriate format for any sort of printed document. When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.

http://www.wuli.com

 

[RLie]

Yes, viol8ion, i have noticed your opinion about gif's or jpg's. But that is NOT the issue....(and i do not agree;
for over 10 years i use all kinds of picture types in pagemaker without ANY problem. I do not send my docs to a service-bureau, but simply to my own local postscriptprinter and i never have any quality problems). The point is that with WindowsXP-pro i get bad file type errors like 8601:16406 with ANY kind of picture (ALSO with TIFF or EPS) on a LOCAL machine with LOCALY stored files; so supposed network difficulties are not the cause. I never use progressive JPG's but normal baseline JPG's. On my previous W2000-pro machine i never encountered this problem so i think Pagemake7.0.1 yust cannot cope with the NTFS filesystem of XP........am i right?????

 

[Eggles]

Well, you could be right. My understanding is that one of the reasons Adobe developed InDesign was partly because the program coding used in PM was too antiquated to be able to work on the newer OS's, and it would have been too big an undertaking to rewrite it. Hence the development of ID. (I see that your question on the Adobe User forum could not resolve the issue either).

 

[viol8ion]

I use NT4.0 at home, with PM6.52 and NTFS file system, and no problem whatsoever. I doubt that the NTFS file system has anything to do with this.

How was XP installed on your computer, ie, a clean install? Or did you upgrade a previous OS? I am drawing at straws here, because your problem is an odd one. Do you have the latest service pack installed for XP? If not, do so just for security, whether it fixes this problem or not.
When was the last time you performed scandisk and defrag? Good housekeeping can solve a lot of problems, even thought the NTFS file system is less subject to fragmentation problems. And finally, how are you getting the graphics files? Are you making them, are they from totally various sources? When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.

http://www.wuli.com

 

[RLie]

Thanks for your reaction: okay, thirst things first: i run a clean new XP pro version 2002 sp 1 (not upgraded from another OS) on a clean new pentium4, 2.00Ghz and 256 MB ram. Scandisk and defrag were run yesterday and the graphics i use are hundreds of photo's of all kinds, most of them used many many times on a previous W2000-pro machine with pm7.0.1...so really odd...that i get bad file type error now.
I have to mention that my machine is linked via a microsoftnetwork to another W95 machine and linked to the internet and a vpn. But the errors i get occur when i work localy with local docs and local graphs and a local installed pm. Not always, but most of the time. Sorry to make it this difficult...

 

[viol8ion]

The VPN and Network should have no effect in the equation. he photos, were they perhaps burned onto a disk and then copied onto your local HD? If so, try setting them so that they are not read-only. That should have no effect, but hey, since we are stumped, may as well start trying the things that make little sense... LOL When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.

http://www.wuli.com

 

[RLie]

That's a nice idea.......actualy, i had lots of files with the read-only-bit on, turning them all off (and also the archive-bit) does improve...
Now localy, it works without problem...lots of thanks for this one....
Placing pictures that come from my w95 machine unfortunatly still gives the same error....but well....everyone has already warned me for that....so...