No CD in 98SE after update 1

[infopcdoctor]

I just updated win98se from the Microsoft website and after rebooting the system, I lost my CD rom and writer. I think it has something to do with the mscdex.exe file. can anyone tell me how I had the "MSCDEX /D:MSCD001 /L:R" command line and where?

 

[Marcs41]

That line has to be in autoexec.bat and the name (MSCD0001) has to be the same as used in the driver line in config.sys

Marc
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[infopcdoctor]

Ok, but there is absolutlety nothing in either of the two files (config.sys & autoexec.bat) after upgrading there are files like that but have been renamed config.001 and autoexec.001. So where exactly do I add those command lines?

 

[Marcs41]

What you can do to make it easy for yourself is to get a 98se boot disk from

http://www.bootdisk.com

, create the disk and look at the config.sys and autoexec on them. Replicate that on your system, taking care of paths and the driver location.

Of course, if you would have a driver disk of you CD, it should have a dos base install or setup program doing the same.

Marc
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[edfair]

If you have somewhat standard motherboard parts you shouldn't need config.sys or autoexec.bat.
The general problem when you lose the CD is because the IDE channels go away because the IDE controller chips are misidentified so the drivers don't load.
Look in the mangler (device manager) to see what is going on with your hard disk controller. And if you have Intel parts you probably need to do a google search for "losing CD" since there are better resources there for the fix.

Ed Fair
Give the wrong symptoms, get the wrong solutions.

 

[cdogg]

Config.sys and autoexec.bat commands are not necessary for normal operation in Windows. They are DOS counterparts there to help some older 16-bit applications when they need it.

I suspect that you have some drives operating in "MS-DOS compatibility mode". To check, right-click My Computer, click properties, and on the Performance tab it will tell you if everything is running optimally or if something is running in MS-DOS mode.

If something is, go here for some useful suggestions:

http://www.infinisource.com/techfiles/msdos-compatibility.html

~cdogg
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[infopcdoctor]

OK, still no cd. I'm at wits end. I added the lines to config.sys and autoexec.bat, rebooted the system and still no cd. Any further suggestions? I was reading somewhere that there has to be a reference to it placed in the win.ini in device drivers, can anyone explain that one?

 

[edfair]

It not only takes the lines in config.sys and autoexec.bat but the drivers have to exist in the path described by those lines.

So what are the error messages that you are receiving?

Ed Fair
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[cdogg]

infopcdoctor,
Sorry, but you need to be more specific. We understand you are missing your CDROM and CD-Writer, but it is NOT clear as to what you've tried so far.

1) What suggestions have you tried?

2) What did you find under the "Performance" tab in Start->Settings->ControlPanel->System?

3) Have you tried to blank your config.sys and autoexec.bat? (Of course, make copies of them first, then blank them - the reason is stated in my first post)

4) Have you acknowledged that entries in your config.sys and autoexec.bat shouldn't be necessary for Windows to "see" your CDROMs?

~cdogg
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[TekTippy4U]

http://www.infinisource.com/techfiles/msdos-compatibility.html

http://www.infinisource.com/techfiles/msdos-compatibility.html

Remove the config sys autoexec bat lines...no need in Win98, only for DOS mode

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[infopcdoctor]

I had this same problem once before on another machine I worked on, I remember I did some editing, which I believe was in the Win.ini file to add the MSCDEX script under drivers. Is this the case? The computer is also running in compatibility mode. Can anyone help?

 

[diogenes10]

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;151634

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;131499

http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...port/kb/articles/q151/9/11.asp&NoWebContent=1

The first link has some comments about the mscdex file, the others are some trouble shooting references that I dont know whether are or arent useful.

http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000143.htm

I think the computer hope article contains suggestions along the lines of those you've already received.

 

[Marcs41]

Ok, you have 2 options, either the 'DOS' driver way, as described in the beginning, or the 98 way as mentioned by efair, cdogg etc.

If you can see the cd in your Device Manager, delete it and reboot.
If not, you must have an older model not nativelay supported.
Check what it is that makes it run in compatibility mode and REM those lines out (it could be the cd device driver)
If in doubt, post your config.sys and autoexec.bat here.

Marc
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[infopcdoctor]

OK last shot, I thank everyone for their suggestions but still haven't been able to get it going. There is nothing in the Autoexec.bat nor Config.sys, files(Marcs41) so there is nothing to post here. Like I said, I had this same problem before and I did something like added a line to Win.ini or something like that. I just can't remember what I did to get it going. Still trying.........

 

[diogenes10]

If you boot from a boot disk with cd rom support, will the cd rom work?

 

[TekTippy4U]

The reason also why config.sys and autoexec.bat are not needed is cause what (defaults) used to get loaded here are now in 98 loaded in IO.SYS.(which is not editable), so the way to override the defaults is to add lines in config and auto..

If you've got an older pc (1994-'97,98 say) you'll probably need to load some things in these files(config,auto) as they're not a PnP BIOS, so the adapter info for devices needs to get loaded from the OS..

Your updates for SE probably added new Network, USB and ICS files that your pc/mobo can't handle, and possibly the USB Host controller probably stole your resources from your IDE controller...
Did you update with a Service Pack or just Critical updates..depending on what you updated, search the M$ site for details on the changes it made, and work backwards by un-installing updates (if even possible) and reinstalling orig files/drivers, etc..

more info about your Sys spec's and what updates you did..

This will help clear up your questions about what to load in config and auto

http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...port/kb/articles/q188/1/57.asp&NoWebContent=1

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[cdogg]

infopcdoctor,
Did you go to that site I linked to earlier? That site has one suggestion as well as several links to Microsoft for other possible solutions.

It would be nice if you could answer some, if not all the questions I had for you in my last post.

 

[TekTippy4U]

cdogg;
just realized; Not only did I post the same link as you earlier, but I posted it twice.....the second one was supposed to be a M$ link....ooops

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