Networking problem 2

[PaulBarter]

I am having problems configuring my network.

I have PC1 running Vista, with a Router connected to the internet plugged into a USB socket.

I also have a 4-way hub connected to the PC1 network adapter which connects to PC2 (running XP) and a network printer (actually a large Canon photocopier).

As it is currently configured, I can access the other PC and the printer from either PC, but I can only access the internet from PC1.

The PC1 connection to the Router is configured as a Private Network with IP4 configuration as Automatic IP address and Automatic DNS. (The DNS address is generated as 192.168.1.254 - the address of the router)

The PC1 connection to the hub is configured as a Public Network with IP4 configured as IP address 192.168.100.2 and subnet mask as 255.255.255.0 (I need a specific IP address so that PC2 firewall (Mcafee) can accept access) but I don't know what to set as DNS address.

PC2 is configured as IP address 192.168.100.3, subnet 255.255.255.0 but without a DNS address.

The Printer is 192.168.100.4

I have tried connecting the router via the hub but then Vista merges the 2 configurations into one Private Network and then I cannot access the other PC or printer.

I have tried various configurations and connections without success.

Any ideas.

 

[BadBigBen]

1. Hook up the Router to the HUB...

2. place all PC's involved into the same WORKGROUP...

3. give all static IP's in the 192.168.001.002 to 192.168.001.253 range with a Subnet Mask of 255.255.255.0, all with the DNS address of the Router (192.168.1.254)...

I am assuming that on each PC there is one and the same user with password, so as to be able to access files and other shares...

Q(s): The router you are using, does it have more than one ethernet jack? instead of a HUB, why not use a SWITCH instead (easier to manage the network in the long run)?



Ben
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[gbaughma]

The DNS address is generated as 192.168.1.254 - the address of the router

The PC1 connection to the hub is configured as a Public Network with IP4 configured as IP address 192.168.100.2 and subnet mask as 255.255.255.0....

PC2 is configured as IP address 192.168.100.3, subnet 255.255.255.0

The Printer is 192.168.100.4

The router is on a different subnet than the devices.



Just my 2¢

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[PaulBarter]

Thanks for your replies

BadBigBen:

I think I have tried that but am not sure - I have tried so many different combinations. But I will give it a whirl.
The Router only has 2 ethernet jacks so not enough.
Is there a significance with Vistas Public network or Private Network.

gbaugma:

I don't know what the subnet actually does, I just used the default settings.

 

[BadBigBen]

I don't know what the subnet actually does

simply put, subnets restrict communication to a certain range of IP's...

Subnetwork

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork

Is there a significance with Vistas Public network or Private Network.

Yes, one is more restrictive than the other (firewall)...

What is the Vista Network Location Feature?

The Network location feature in Windows Vista is really just an easy way to customize Vistas firewall , based on if you trust ( Private ) or don’t trust ( Public ) the computers around you.

source: ExchangeIS

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How to ask a question, when posting them to a professional forum.
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[gbaughma]

See, the issue is this:

Your ROUTER is set to 192.168.1.254
With a SUBNET of 255.255.255.0

Which means your router will talk to addresses 192.168.1.0 through 192.168.1.254

Notice that not included in that range is 192.168.100.(anything).....

So, they're on different "Networks", so to speak. Even though they may physically all be plugged together, logically, they're not talking.

On a "Class C" Subnet, or 255.255.255.0, the first three numbers (for example 192.168.1.???) must all be the same.

Change your PC's to match your router, or change your router to match your PC's.



Just my 2¢

"What the captain doesn't realize is that we've secretly replaced his Dilithium Crystals with new Folger's Crystals."

--Greg

http://parallel.tzo.com

 

[PaulBarter]

Yup, that fixed it.

And I've learned a bit about subnets I didn't understand before ;-)

Many thanks

 

[gbaughma]

Many welks. Glad you got it figured out.



Just my 2¢

"What the captain doesn't realize is that we've secretly replaced his Dilithium Crystals with new Folger's Crystals."

--Greg

http://parallel.tzo.com

 

[BadBigBen]

I second that... ;-)

Ben
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