Logoff & network drives 2

[reghakr]

I have one win98 machine that will not display a Windows password dialog box and therefore won't log into the network. I have tried all the solutions that I know of, such as:

Delete all .pwl files
Delete all lines under
[Password Lists]
Choose Client for Microsoft Networks as Primary Login
Reboot
No box.

I created the MustBeValidated entry in the registry
I made sure the AutoLogon value was not set.

When I click Logoff... it flashes dark for a second then re-appears. I removed everything from msconfig, and ended task on every single entruy in the task list.

To get the " Are you sure you want to Logoff dialog box, I select explorer in the task List, choose End task, click Cancel, then I get the generic "This program is not responding (with no title). I end task, then go to Start>Logoff and it logs me off, and back in again connecting the mapped drive I need to have available.

reghakr

 

[cdogg]

reghakr,

Aside from reinstalling Windows (the explorer error you encounter isn't a good sign), I would try blowing out your entire network stack. At least remove Client for MS Networks, TCP/IP, NetBEUI, IPX/SPX, and File and Print Sharing and reboot. Readd the components, configure them, and restart again.

~cdogg

 

[reghakr]

cdogg,

I appreciate your input, but I always hold off re-installing Windows as an appsolute last resort.

This is how I learn, by fixing problems that exist. I did remove Client for Microsoft Networks, but did not "blow out the whole thing" yet. I'm home now, will have to wait till tomorrow to give it a try.

Also, I have extracted a new Explorer.exe from the cab files. Also, note that there is no error message and internet access is working perfectly.

reghakr

 

[cdogg]

I agree. It's best to try and fix first, and only reinstall as a last resort.

However in your case, you're trying to get a networking prompt, correct? You specified "Windows password dialog box" in your first post, which is a different prompt.

I've seen cases like this over and over again where I work, and 9 times out of 10 it's the network stack or NIC drivers. It's a good point you make that you aren't receiving an error message. But in some situations, the drivers loaded with a NIC can influence the appearance of the prompt. I apologize for my lack of description, but it's the best way I can put it. In several different system configurations that I work with, if the NIC card is active, but the LAN connection is not, then "sometimes" the prompt won't appear. In those cases, the drivers have somehow conformed to knowing when to display the network prompt. I know this is probably not likely in your case, but is possible...

 

[tsuji]

Hello, reghakr.

Have you exhausted all the resolutions as to the instructions given in :

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q141/8/58.asp

Notably
[1] IPX/SPX-Compatible Protocol : Frame type.
[2] DisableDefaultPasswords setting under HKLM\...\NWNP32\NetworkProvider.
[3] Disable Password Caching (deleting) under HKLM\...\Policies\Network.

regards - tsuji

 

[reghakr]

tsuji,

Yes, I saw that one this morning. I will do this one completely also. We don't use IPX/SPX-Compatible Protocol. Now that I think about it, the Change Password tab may have been missing.

cdogg,

I guess I'm a little confused about the Enter Windows Password and the Enter the password for Microsoft Netwoking dialog box. I've setup these machines (an internet lab of 20 Win98 computers used by patrons of our library) with a username but never assigned a password. I then changed the primary Network Logon to Windows logon. After rebooting, every machine connected automatically to the network, all computers in all workgroups were visible. But not this machine.

I swear I saw this problem on one of the boards, the wording was something like network drives not available untill logging off.

When I start the machine up in the morning and go to Start>Logoff...

That's all it says is Logoff... with no username. When I get the Logoff to work, it brings up the "Enter your password for Microsoft Networking" dialog box, it has the name listed (Internet6) and I type in the password that was assigned on the NT server that it connects to. I now have access to the mapped folder I need.

I'll let you know tomorrow. Thanks

reghakr

 

[reghakr]

tsuji,

Thanks, it was the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Network\Real Mode Net\Autologon value as described in

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q141/8/58.asp

Autologon value was 00. I deleted it, restarted. All is fine.

Thanks, again.

reghakr

 

[tsuji]

reghakr,

Thanks for the feedback. I thought you had that Autologon part done in your original posting, that's why... Thanks again for letting us know all is well.

- tsuji