i want to be able to define the postion ont eh screen and disallow the user from being able to click on the border and drag the focused window to a new position
You can position your form manually in Design View. You then have to cilck on the Save icon (looks like an floppy disc) then, without doing anything else, exit Design View. When you next open it'll be where you left it! BTW, AutoCenter only centers horizontally, not vertically.
i know how to do these things, but this only affects how it appears when they first open the form-they still have the ability to click drag and drop from the border which alters the original position
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