I am trying to write an app which uses the JoyStick (using vb6 on xp home) I have an old sidewinder pro and whilst I can detect joy movements and button presses I cannot find a way to detect rudder movement or the other one (which I can''t remember the name) Basically I want to detect twisting the joystick from side to side and moving the circular control on the base - the API's JoyGetDevCaps and JoyGetPos do not seem to cater for these - any ideas?