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ccarmock

ccarmock

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Oct 23, 2005
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ona Norstar Compact PLUS is the IRAD keycoded locked out by default? Thsi is a UK system. I mention that since the software is a UK version and different to other countries.

Is there an easy way I can find out if the IRAD is active on a system? I can set it up with a line and it will answer....

Regards
Clive
 
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Check in Maint and get the Version number of the system
 
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I know I installed 1 CICS that the IRAD was keycoded in SoCal. I imagine it wouldn't let you set any parameters if it it didn't have the keycode, but if it's answering it seems moot.
 
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the version of this system is:

30CnE00 NP3B which I think was the final UK release of Norstar software.

The only IRAD settings I can find are to set which line it will respond to and whether to use the modem in Slow or Fast mode.

I seem to remember reading that it will always allow setup to answer as the keycode can be entered remotely.


Regards
Clive
 
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The sw card should have printed on it whether it's irad is enabled or not. (Well at least the NA versions do.)
 
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Check out Thread faq799-5871 it don't say if it has IRAD but if you check with Firebird I'm pretty sure he'll know. He is the one that submitted the Thread.
 
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Hi Guys.

Thanks for the message. The only answer that I can offer is to hook up a Fast-Rad onto a spare extn port. We call them "E-Rads" in the UK, because they were designed to a higher security level for use by Nortel's main distributer known as "BT".

The problem was that BT had specialised software to use for the E-Rads as it needed both letters & numbers within the password. The NRU software only required numbers.

Anyway, I got to hear about a firmware upgrade for the Fast-Rads that allowed them to be used via PRI trunks as well as Analogue ones. This got me thinking about using it on the UK E-Rads to do a DOWNGRADE. It worked!. I was left with a E-Rad that only needed numbers for the passcode.

I could then use the NRU software without any problems. I've since been able to get hold of all of the UK map files & I can browse / backup & restore Norstar systems Rlse 3 to Rlse 3 for both the Compact & Modulsr plus versions.

My gut feeling is that the UK Compact plus systems still use a mixture of letters / numbers for the password. However, by access the compact Plus with a E-Rad, you can browse to the IRAD section & make changes such as the password. The system will accept the changes, but I still could not get a connection via the IRAD.

I hope my little contribution here will help you all.


All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian Programmer in the UK

Useful Nortel forum at
If it's working, then leave it alone!.
 
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I think the issue is in the UK the IRAD is disabled by default....

I spoek to a Nortel reseller today and was told Nortel won't generate any IRAD keycodes since the Norstar range is discontinued.

Have emailed my Nortel account manager to confirm this.

I am assuming that the IRAD if enabled will work ok with NRU?

Or was the Uk version of Norstar software such that the IRAD cannot work?
 
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Hi Clive. The UK IRAD's do work. It just that I've not yet got it to work. I knew some of the boys who could remotley access them when I was with BT. I'll give you a call in the morning. DB

All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian Programmer in the UK

Useful Nortel forum at
If it's working, then leave it alone!.
 
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Hi DB - I'll be out of the office in the morning though back in the afternoon.

I think though aren't the UK ones disabled by default and you get a keycode to unlock them? Had a response from one Nortel dealer today that they can't get a price for a keycode from Nortel UK as the product line is discontinued and Nortel refused to quote and offered to quote me for a BCM 50 instead!

I have taken it up with my Nortel account manager.
Even though it's discontinued they should still be able to sell keycodes.
 
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Hi Clive. I've checked the details on my debugging guide and you do have the final software release.

Compact Plus 4.00(Rlse 5)SP:30CnE00 NP3B Map file = AZA01ENG

I'd like to know if a keycode was needed to activate them as I would like to get my own done at some stage, although my E-Rad does the trick for the moment.

All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian Programmer in the UK

Useful Nortel forum at
If it's working, then leave it alone!.
 
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ccarmock-

You had me nervous. I don't know which dealer you're using, but according to Nortel, the ICS series- MICS, CICS, and 3x8 are in no danger of being discontinued. They may not offer keycodes for particular applications anymore, but the phone systems are still current models.

It sounds like your dealer may have been trying to up-sell you.

If anyone has heard anything different from Nortel, please post.

 
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Just a small question on this Norstar topic, Are they still being sold as new systems in the States and anywhere else?. Overhere across the pond, we are only dealing with the BCM range as they have replaced them.

All the best

Firebird Scrambler
Meridian Programmer in the UK

Useful Nortel forum at
If it's working, then leave it alone!.
 
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In the UK Nortel consider the Norstar range discontinued. That includes CICS and MICS. Phones etc are still available of course as are devices such as ATA2's as they also work on the BCM range. However Nortel don't supply new Norstar systems in the UK any longer and have positioned the BCM system in it's place.

I was surprised to hear they are not keen to suply keycodes for older systems though, however am waiting on a response from my Nortel account manager.

 
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I am pretty sure that you can get the equipment, keycodes and systems from the distributors that normally sell into the overseas market.

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JerryReeve
Communications Systems Int'l
com-sys.com

 
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Nortel UK have just confirmed that the Norstar product line has been End of Life for sometime and they cannot supply any more keycodes for it.

Their suggestion is to swap out for a BCM.

This was direct from my Nortel account manager.

 
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Rik do you know any vendors int he US sellign keycodes for Norstar/CICS? maybe I can try to order an IRAD one from them?

I had to do that for a Unified messaging seat for the Call Pilot 100 as it wasn't available in the UK.
 
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I don't know about IRAD, but I just ordered Unified Messaging codes from Vertical Communications.

I'm not sure if it's the same Vertical that bought out Comdial and Vodavi, or not. I'll see if I can get you some contact info on Monday.
 
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