input buttons act strange in Netscape

[jasperx]

I have put close buttons on numerous information window pages on my site. These buttons have the following syntax:
<INPUT type=&quot;button&quot; value=&quot;close&quot; id=button1 name=button1 onclick='window.close()';>

They work great on my very recent Mac browsers both IE and NS and work well on PC versions of IE and NS 6 and 7. The buttons don't even show up in NS 4.7. I have checked my Javascript Bible and O'Reily Dynamic HTML and can't spot the problem. They also don't work right in Apples new Safari... the button is visible but does nothing when clicked.

 

[jemminger]

just a suggestion: FORGET NS 4x...usage is 2% or less of the entire web population.

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-jeff

 

[xutopia]

agreed. NS4 is keeping the web from evolving. Let's drop it from the face of the eart. Gary

http://www.xutopia.com

Haran
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[jasperx]

I agree that NS 4 is a pain and I also prefer to ignore it.

Oddly, NS 4 makes up a majority of my site's heavy users. My target audience leans to anti- Microsoft and also services folks who don't have the money to upgrade hardware... they are running Win 95 on slow machines with very slow connections. I must honor these sensibilities or fail my client.

So... does anyone know how to make a close button work on NS 4.7?

 

[xutopia]

jasper,

I'm one of those people that believe that NS4 is a plague and that by helping you find a solution (which would take up valuable time) i'll only allow a plague to stagnate when it could be rid off the face of the earth.

I'm sensitive about people with older harware but I have not yet seen a machine running windows 95 that doesn't have enough power to run Mozilla or NS6. Sure it might be a little bit slower than NS4 but at least it will work with a majority of sites that today are incompatible with NS4.

Supporting NS4 and its proprietary implementations (or IE and it's proprietary implementations) hurts the web. Your code should be standard compliant and that means it won't work with NS4.

So please for the better good of everyone on the web do not support NS4 and encourage your users to upgrade. Gary

http://www.xutopia.com

Haran
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[jasperx]

Thanks for the viewpoints... you have given me some things to think about.

Following your advice, I would download NS 6, burn a CD and then drive house to house to upgrade them ( their internet connections are inadequate for downloading).

I had thought that doing a browser detection to select a netscape 4.7 version of the page would be more interesting, more cost effective and better for the environment than driving around town CD in hand. I failed to realize the damage to the Greater Web community which would be caused by my accomodation of the &quot;heathen&quot; NS 4.7.

Am I having a bad dream?

 

[xutopia]

jasper,

Once again I'm really sorry to hear about the inconvenience.

Netscape has an install file that is 246kb. Once downloaded it downloads all components that are needed. You could link to that file from some web page and have all your users download it and install painlessly.

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp

Extra reading material on why it is a good idea to upgrade :

http://www.webstandards.org/act/campaign/buc/

I hope you are not offended i'm really hoping to make everyone's experience better. Gary

http://www.xutopia.com

Haran
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[jemminger]

i disagree with the statement that a dial-up connection is inadequate for downloading a browser: i have personally downloaded IE6, NS6 and several versions of Mozilla at home over a 56k connection. =========================================================
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-jeff