ID Crash while text wrapping, "kern-invalid-address"

[wmlbrown]

I just started using ID and suddenly it's crashing.

My crash log reads:
Command: InDesign 2.0.2
PID: 577

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x08142000

I'm on a new iMac OS 10.2.7 and I was attempting to apply a text wrap
around a graphic. I chose "edge detection" and it crashed. It has
done it the dozens of times I've re-attempted. Trashing preferences and rebooting doesn't work. Re-installation doesn't work.

The Adobe users forum has many siimilar problems described, along with theories about it being caused by conflicts with other applications (most of which I don't have), such as Norton and Safari. I see a note on this forum that describes a smililar problem and says the problem is graphics "nested" to deep in files or something. Does that mean the graphics files should be in the same folder as the ID file? How deeply nested is "too deep?" The graphics were previously "far away" from the design file, so I moved them to another folder in the InDesign folder. Is this still too far away?

I'll try de-nesting the graphics folders even more. Any other ideas?

Beginning to wish I'd gone with Quark.

 

[jimoblak]

Nesting can mean 2 different things...

1)
The thread you mention referred to having a file stored at:
DRIVE:\folder1\folder2\folder3\folder4\folder5\folder6\folder7\folder8\image.tif

Some suspect that having the graphic hidden so deeply in a file path may cause problems.

2)
Nesting may also refer to image embedding/linking. If you have a graphic embedded/linked in another image and then embedded/linked in still another, a page layout program may choke when trying to access all image references.

What kind of graphic is this? There may be work-arounds.

- - picklefish - -

Why is everyone in this forum responding to me as picklefish?

 

[wmlbrown]

Thanks for the reply. The graphics are simple greyscale eps files (Photoshop). There are 5-6 on a page, from 500 k to 2 mg large. There is a larger (3-4mg) drawing on the master (a border) which appears on all the pages. There is some overlapping of graphics and text blocks, but nothing terribly compllicated. I am using a large number of fonts and font variations in the text- emulating a 19th century circus poster - using just about every serif- and a few sans-serif fonts available. Please don't tell me I can't do that, it's the key concept of the design - and would be an incredible time waster to go back and re-do.

 

[jimoblak]

Here are somethings to try...

1) change the EPS to LZW compressed TIFFs in Photoshop. There may be no need for ID to process the EPS data that gets packed in a basic grayscale image.

2) (save a copy of the document to do this since it is quite damaging) change all fonts to a basic 'Times' and see if text-wrapping causes trouble. A rogue font may be to blame.

3) If ID is doing a too-complex edge detection, it may give up. Try using another text wrap option. You can use the pen tool to modify the text wrap border.

4) Move the image to the pasteboard and then apply text wrap. Then move the image back into your layout.

- - picklefish - -

Why is everyone in this forum responding to me as picklefish?

 

[wmlbrown]

Thanks again. I'll try your suggestions out when I can. Right now, I have to get this design finished, so I used a work-around - just using tabs to maually wrap the text around the graphic.

Another thing I might try is to apply a clipping path in Photoshop, which InDesign will follow as a text wrapping guide.

 

[tad1952]

Just for interests sake, did you try placing the problem graphic on a page by itself & then wrapping the text first with the font you are now using and then using a different font? This will let you know if it is a problem with that particular graphic or the font. I'd like to know the answer just in case it happens to me - I absolutely adore InDesign even though once in awhile something pops up that requires a bit of a workaround. I think Quark is way more quirky than InDesign.

 

[wmlbrown]

Yes, I tried wrapping the text with a font I was sure would have no problems (Times, I think it was), and the same thing happened. I ended up using a work-around. As suggested by "Jimoblak/picklefish" I used the pen tool to create a text wrap border and it had no trouble. For some reason I coudn't get that method to work on another page so I just put a bunch of tabs in he text block and "hand set" the margin around the art. Tedious, but I didn't have time to monkey around with it. No more crashes - unless I touched the "detect edges" option in the text wrapping tool.