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how long since ORACLE 9 became available
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Larry Ellison provided the announcement of the release of Oracle 9i in October, 2000 at oracle Open World in San Francisco.
If you are planing to migrate from Oracle 7, then you have to migrate to 8i, first, then one more time to migrate to 9i. It's not a big deal.
Hope that helps,
clio_usa
If you are planing to migrate from Oracle 7, then you have to migrate to 8i, first, then one more time to migrate to 9i. It's not a big deal.
Hope that helps,
clio_usa
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I suppose that first upgrading to ORACLE 8 and then to 9 will not be such a hassle, but we want to avoid making any unneeded costs in the upgrade. Are we doomed to first pay for ORACLE 8 and then the upgrade costs to ORACLE 9? ORACLE seems to have become a pretty expensive package all the same......
T. Blom
Information analyst
tbl@shimano-eu.com
T. Blom
Information analyst
tbl@shimano-eu.com
Hi blom0344
NO ! - you are NOT doomed to pay Oracle for a Oracle 8i - You are not in production.
First you migrate to Oracle 8.0.6 or 8i
Then you upgrade to Oracle 9i
If you only got a few "clean" schemaes, then consider using import/export - if your data is not massive - you still have all your instances.
You need to understand that Oracle 9i is only certified on new versions of OS (ex. Windows 2000K - not Windows NT ver 4) so maybe you need to change something on your platform.
You can read more about migration in Oracle9i: Database Migration manual.
Regards
Allan
Icq: 346225948
! If you can't prove it - don't bother try to teach me !
NO ! - you are NOT doomed to pay Oracle for a Oracle 8i - You are not in production.
First you migrate to Oracle 8.0.6 or 8i
Then you upgrade to Oracle 9i
If you only got a few "clean" schemaes, then consider using import/export - if your data is not massive - you still have all your instances.
You need to understand that Oracle 9i is only certified on new versions of OS (ex. Windows 2000K - not Windows NT ver 4) so maybe you need to change something on your platform.
You can read more about migration in Oracle9i: Database Migration manual.
Regards
Allan
Icq: 346225948
! If you can't prove it - don't bother try to teach me !
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Actually one of the big reasons to upgrade ORACLE from version 7 is that this version is not compatible with W2000 as operating system. However, we ARE in production with ORACLE at the moment (version 7.3.3), so would that change the scenario............?
T. Blom
Information analyst
tbl@shimano-eu.com
T. Blom
Information analyst
tbl@shimano-eu.com
I think you might have to take up that cost issue thing with Oracle corp. It seems to me that you should not have to pay extra for Oracle 8 if you are just using it as a path to get to Oracle 9. In my company's agreement with Oracle, our licenses are good for either Oracle 8i or 9i so it definitely would not cost us anything extra. However I know that Oracle works different deals with different companies (depending on the volume, etc.) so it might be different for you.
Hi blom0344
You do the following steps:
You got Oracle 7.3.3. database
1. You set up a TEST database - Get a cd-rom with Oracle 8i and 9i (FREE)
2. You migrate to Oracle 8i
2a. You make test to see how well your migration took place
3. You upgrade to Oracle 9i
3a. You make test to see how well your upgrade took place
3b. You try to understand cost to application to work in Oracle 9i (time, money, working in departments)
3c. You try to understand cost to platform (initial cost, per year support/service)
3d. How well does all other systems work with this upgraded application/database
4. You now know a budget and timeframe and you can plan a migration to Oracle 9i
5. You talk with Oracle sales rep. to get a Oracle 9i production License (named users/CPU license?, standard/entreprise edition?, and so on)
6. You press the [START] and use a GO-OR-NO-GO on each step you have to be able to complete or abort if problems can't be handled.
Something like the above - but of cause it depends of how large your database is and how many systems and departments are using data from/to the database.
You NEVER need to pay for TEST, migration or UPDATE.
You ONLY pay Oracle for PRODUCTION databases.
Only Oracle sales rep. can see your costs from a Oracle 7.3.3 to Oracle 9i - because I think you can't just pay a upgrade price (your Oracle 7.3.3 is too old).
Regards
Allan
Icq: 346225948
! If you can't prove it - don't bother try to teach me !
You do the following steps:
You got Oracle 7.3.3. database
1. You set up a TEST database - Get a cd-rom with Oracle 8i and 9i (FREE)
2. You migrate to Oracle 8i
2a. You make test to see how well your migration took place
3. You upgrade to Oracle 9i
3a. You make test to see how well your upgrade took place
3b. You try to understand cost to application to work in Oracle 9i (time, money, working in departments)
3c. You try to understand cost to platform (initial cost, per year support/service)
3d. How well does all other systems work with this upgraded application/database
4. You now know a budget and timeframe and you can plan a migration to Oracle 9i
5. You talk with Oracle sales rep. to get a Oracle 9i production License (named users/CPU license?, standard/entreprise edition?, and so on)
6. You press the [START] and use a GO-OR-NO-GO on each step you have to be able to complete or abort if problems can't be handled.
Something like the above - but of cause it depends of how large your database is and how many systems and departments are using data from/to the database.
You NEVER need to pay for TEST, migration or UPDATE.
You ONLY pay Oracle for PRODUCTION databases.
Only Oracle sales rep. can see your costs from a Oracle 7.3.3 to Oracle 9i - because I think you can't just pay a upgrade price (your Oracle 7.3.3 is too old).
Regards
Allan
Icq: 346225948
! If you can't prove it - don't bother try to teach me !
As far as the dates go, 9i was still in beta until June 2002 when 9.2.0.1 was released. (901 was the beta release, and in Spring 2002 Oracle started their "early adopter" program from the first production release.) but get ready ... 9.2 is the terminal release of 9i and 10i will be released this summer in beta followed by a production release in 2004.
As for someone's earlier posting re: "never pay for test environments" that's like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Call your Oracle sales rep to discuss.
As for someone's earlier posting re: "never pay for test environments" that's like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Call your Oracle sales rep to discuss.
Hi MarkRem
NO !
High placed Product managers and so on from Oracle says - you ONLY need license for production databases!!!!!!
If you try downloading Oracle from OTN - then you also agree to non-production use of the downloaded software.
Regards
Allan
Icq: 346225948
! If you can't prove it - don't bother try to teach me !
NO !
High placed Product managers and so on from Oracle says - you ONLY need license for production databases!!!!!!
If you try downloading Oracle from OTN - then you also agree to non-production use of the downloaded software.
Regards
Allan
Icq: 346225948
! If you can't prove it - don't bother try to teach me !
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