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Geforce fx5200 128mb on 1x agp 1
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No it doesn't. 1.5 volts is for an AGP 4x card. The card will have two gaps in the bottom where the pins are. Older 1x and 2x cards only have one gap and therefore won't fit into the slot (and use 3.3v). Your board supports AGP 4x. Normally an 8x card is backwards compatable (although an 8x slot normally uses 0.8v) so they will work - but not at 8x!
You would probably be better off getting an AGP 4x card.
Kim.
'Everybody is ignorant - only on different subjects.'
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You would probably be better off getting an AGP 4x card.
Kim.
'Everybody is ignorant - only on different subjects.'
Will Rogers.
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It seems that you have an AGP Pro slot which supports 4x mode. If I remember correctly, AGP Pro slots are a bit longer than universal AGP 4x slots.
An 8x card can operate at either 1.5v for 4x or 0.8v for 8x. Since 8x cards were specifically designed to work at either 4x or 8x, you should be fine as long as the card fits. The 8x interface doesn't provide a significant advantage over 4x yet.
To be honest, it really shouldn't matter whether you buy an 8x card. Even though you have to run an 8x card in 4x mode, benchmarks show very little difference if any (and any difference is only at extremely high resolutions that you won't use like 1600x1200).
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An 8x card can operate at either 1.5v for 4x or 0.8v for 8x. Since 8x cards were specifically designed to work at either 4x or 8x, you should be fine as long as the card fits. The 8x interface doesn't provide a significant advantage over 4x yet.
To be honest, it really shouldn't matter whether you buy an 8x card. Even though you have to run an 8x card in 4x mode, benchmarks show very little difference if any (and any difference is only at extremely high resolutions that you won't use like 1600x1200).
~cdogg
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cdogg-
I agree with you - there's not much difference -
The only reason I suggested getting a 4x card is that they are a bit cheaper! I presume from the original post that no card has yet been bought - so why pay more for something that will yield no benefit? Even an 8x card running on 0.8v doesn't seem to have many advantages for the average user - although I presume that will change as newer games that take advantage of the bandwidth come out - as long as the motherboard chipset is also up to scratch! AGP 4x has most of the wrinkles ironed out by now - AGP 8x still has some way to go as far as I am concerned - especially when you see some of the problem posts in this forum. I stand by - get a good 4x card that has proven drivers, it could save you a lot of grief down the road!!
Kim.
'Everybody is ignorant - only on different subjects.'
Will Rogers.
I agree with you - there's not much difference -
The only reason I suggested getting a 4x card is that they are a bit cheaper! I presume from the original post that no card has yet been bought - so why pay more for something that will yield no benefit? Even an 8x card running on 0.8v doesn't seem to have many advantages for the average user - although I presume that will change as newer games that take advantage of the bandwidth come out - as long as the motherboard chipset is also up to scratch! AGP 4x has most of the wrinkles ironed out by now - AGP 8x still has some way to go as far as I am concerned - especially when you see some of the problem posts in this forum. I stand by - get a good 4x card that has proven drivers, it could save you a lot of grief down the road!!
Kim.
'Everybody is ignorant - only on different subjects.'
Will Rogers.
QUOTE by cdogg:
"To be honest, it really shouldn't matter whether you buy an 8x card. Even though you have to run an 8x card in 4x mode, benchmarks show very little difference if any (and any difference is only at extremely high resolutions that you won't use like 1600x1200)."
I never use anything lower than 1600x1200 unless i don't have a choice..
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"To be honest, it really shouldn't matter whether you buy an 8x card. Even though you have to run an 8x card in 4x mode, benchmarks show very little difference if any (and any difference is only at extremely high resolutions that you won't use like 1600x1200)."
I never use anything lower than 1600x1200 unless i don't have a choice..
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marcdoyle,
I'm not talking about desktop 2D resolution for everyday use. It seems that gaming or 3D acceleration is the center of focus here, and unless you have a large display, anything over 1280x1024 is "probably" overkill. Hey, whatever works for you, go for it.
KimLeece,
I understand your reasoning about getting a 4x card. However, let's say somebody wanted to go out and get a decent high-end video-card, but not necessarily top-of-the-line. Their choices might be an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro or an Nvidia FX 5700 Ultra, both of which are 8x cards that bring DirectX 9 to the table with decent FPS results. There's no reason to believe that because you have an AGP 4x slot that you would be bottlenecking the card's performance.
Most straight-up 4x cards out there aren't fully DirectX 9 compliant. If you're looking for an upgrade under $125, then you wouldn't have much choice anyway, since that's the price range for most 4x cards out there (like the GF4 Ti's).
I only stated what I did because you said "You would probably be better off getting an AGP 4x card". The truth is that you would be just as well off only if you didn't care about DirectX 9 and by no means are you necessarily "better off".
~cdogg
[tab]"All paid jobs absorb and degrade the mind"
[tab][tab]- Aristotle
I'm not talking about desktop 2D resolution for everyday use. It seems that gaming or 3D acceleration is the center of focus here, and unless you have a large display, anything over 1280x1024 is "probably" overkill. Hey, whatever works for you, go for it.
KimLeece,
I understand your reasoning about getting a 4x card. However, let's say somebody wanted to go out and get a decent high-end video-card, but not necessarily top-of-the-line. Their choices might be an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro or an Nvidia FX 5700 Ultra, both of which are 8x cards that bring DirectX 9 to the table with decent FPS results. There's no reason to believe that because you have an AGP 4x slot that you would be bottlenecking the card's performance.
Most straight-up 4x cards out there aren't fully DirectX 9 compliant. If you're looking for an upgrade under $125, then you wouldn't have much choice anyway, since that's the price range for most 4x cards out there (like the GF4 Ti's).
I only stated what I did because you said "You would probably be better off getting an AGP 4x card". The truth is that you would be just as well off only if you didn't care about DirectX 9 and by no means are you necessarily "better off".
~cdogg
[tab]"All paid jobs absorb and degrade the mind"
[tab][tab]- Aristotle
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Hi, I have the similar question as macink. I have a Pentium 3 450MHz with Gigabyte BX2000 (Intel 440BX chipset), and want to upgrade the video card. I'm not sure, but I think my computer has 1x AGP slot only. Will a Geforce fx5200 128MB DDR, 64-bit, 8X AGP work on a 1x agp slot? If not, what's the alternative? Is PCI video cards slower than AGP cards?
Generally, PCI cards with over 16MB aren't as fast as their AGP counterparts since the PCI bus is slower and has a smaller bandwidth. For an older system like yours, however, it may not make too much difference going PCI since you have bigger bottlenecks to worry about. The GeForce4 Mx 64MB is a perfect card to get for older systems that is available in PCI.
If you have a PIII system with an AGP slot, then I doubt the slot is less than 2X. 1X slots I beleive were only available in early PII systems.
Finally, unless you have an AGP 4X slot, then the 8X card is not going to work, much less even physically fit in the slot. 8X cards are keyed only to fit in 4X or 8X slots, since the voltage requirement is 0.8v or 1.5v.
~cdogg
[tab]"All paid jobs absorb and degrade the mind"
[tab][tab]- Aristotle
If you have a PIII system with an AGP slot, then I doubt the slot is less than 2X. 1X slots I beleive were only available in early PII systems.
Finally, unless you have an AGP 4X slot, then the 8X card is not going to work, much less even physically fit in the slot. 8X cards are keyed only to fit in 4X or 8X slots, since the voltage requirement is 0.8v or 1.5v.
~cdogg
[tab]"All paid jobs absorb and degrade the mind"
[tab][tab]- Aristotle
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