I have three frames on a page: top header frame, long 3rd party/href middle frame, and a bottom footer frame. I want the top frame to scroll out of the window as the long middle frame is scrolled through and for the bottom frame to not be visible until the bottom of the middle scroll is reached. How can I make the three frames scroll synched to the middle frame like this or is there a method using something other than frames to accomplish this? Thanks, AMc Should I stay or should I go? Thanks & Goodbye, Joe.