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Foxpro 7.0 2
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craigsboyd
IS-IT--Management
The two books that I would recommend are
1001 Things You Wanted to Know About Visual Foxpro
Hacker's Guide to Visual Foxpro Slighthaze = NULL
1001 Things You Wanted to Know About Visual Foxpro
Hacker's Guide to Visual Foxpro Slighthaze = NULL
Mike Gagnon
Programmer
zambrtp
not using GUI's
Doesn't that mean Graphical User Interface?
Try here:
Or here
Or here
Mike Gagnon
If you want to get the best response to a question, please check out FAQ184-2483 first.
not using GUI's
Doesn't that mean Graphical User Interface?
Try here:
Or here
Or here
Mike Gagnon
If you want to get the best response to a question, please check out FAQ184-2483 first.
You can start with "Teach Yourself VFP 3.0 In 21 Days" if
a) You are already a professional programmer,
b) You manage to find this book![[smile]](/data/assets/smilies/smile.gif "[smile] [smile]")
It teaches you how to manage XBase format tables in the FoxPro IDE first, and then goes to these GUI matters (that you hate so much)
(No offense intended.)
Regards,
Ilya
a) You are already a professional programmer,
b) You manage to find this book
It teaches you how to manage XBase format tables in the FoxPro IDE first, and then goes to these GUI matters (that you hate so much
)(No offense intended.
)Regards,
Ilya
You can find this book here:
Mike Gagnon
Programmer
Ilya
You can start with "Teach Yourself VFP 3.0 In 21 Days"
How woudl that help him if he is trying to learn VFP7.0? Mike Gagnon
If you want to get the best response to a question, please check out FAQ184-2483 first.
You can start with "Teach Yourself VFP 3.0 In 21 Days"
How woudl that help him if he is trying to learn VFP7.0? Mike Gagnon
If you want to get the best response to a question, please check out FAQ184-2483 first.
Those two books will give you a nice starting point (they also explain the gui, yes I know, but they explain the vfp basics):
- Visual FoxPro 6.0 Programmerguide ; Microsoft Press
- The Fundamentals: Building Visual Studio Applications on a Visual FoxPro 6.0 Foundation ; Hentzenwerke publishing
(In the second book Whil Hentzen explains a possible way to built VFP applications)
Charl
- Visual FoxPro 6.0 Programmerguide ; Microsoft Press
- The Fundamentals: Building Visual Studio Applications on a Visual FoxPro 6.0 Foundation ; Hentzenwerke publishing
(In the second book Whil Hentzen explains a possible way to built VFP applications)
Charl
Mike Lewis
Programmer
In addition to the good suggestions above, you might like to look at my Books Review page. You will find details and opinions on all the leading books on Visual Foxpro.
Just go to the URL below and follow the link to "VFP Book Reviews"
Mike Lewis
Edinburgh, Scotland
Just go to the URL below and follow the link to "VFP Book Reviews"
Mike Lewis
Edinburgh, Scotland
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Zambrpt,
In my experience of trying to make the leap to VFP, I found that I went to a number of books, none of which ever got me across. If you truely want to learn this language, I suggest the following course of action, (note as well, I think this is also the FASTEST way to get there):
1) Buy an interactive tutorial. AppDev is great, I've used it, and there are others, I can only personally vouch for this one, and they have a new VFP 7.0 course.
2) Get some of the books mentioned above as reference. The Hackers Guide has come in handy for me a few times over the years, but it is NOT what I would consider a good beginner, or even intermediate book, for that matter. Most of it's information will be lost on you for some time.
3) Make friends, find others, join user groups, etc that are using VFP as well. The biggest hurdle you will face is you'll hit a brick wall, and have no where to go.
4) Spend LOTS of time on this forum. Read the old posts. Many many many beginner, intermediate, and very advanced questions have been asked here. Self included. This is the single richest resource of Fox knowledge freely available anywhere that I've found. The people here are friendly, bright, and experienced. The key to maximizing this forum is knowing what you need to ask. There will be dozens here who can help, and most of the time someone, somewhere on here has experienced whatever you need as well. (Key here being also, you're not alone!) I tried to make the leap several times, and I must say the single most valuable resource I found are the rich experinces of the memebers here. (So HOOT to all of you, if I haven't said it before.)
Best Regards,
Scott
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler."![[hammer]](/data/assets/smilies/hammer.gif "[hammer] [hammer]")
In my experience of trying to make the leap to VFP, I found that I went to a number of books, none of which ever got me across. If you truely want to learn this language, I suggest the following course of action, (note as well, I think this is also the FASTEST way to get there):
1) Buy an interactive tutorial. AppDev is great, I've used it, and there are others, I can only personally vouch for this one, and they have a new VFP 7.0 course.
2) Get some of the books mentioned above as reference. The Hackers Guide has come in handy for me a few times over the years, but it is NOT what I would consider a good beginner, or even intermediate book, for that matter. Most of it's information will be lost on you for some time.
3) Make friends, find others, join user groups, etc that are using VFP as well. The biggest hurdle you will face is you'll hit a brick wall, and have no where to go.
4) Spend LOTS of time on this forum. Read the old posts. Many many many beginner, intermediate, and very advanced questions have been asked here. Self included. This is the single richest resource of Fox knowledge freely available anywhere that I've found. The people here are friendly, bright, and experienced. The key to maximizing this forum is knowing what you need to ask. There will be dozens here who can help, and most of the time someone, somewhere on here has experienced whatever you need as well. (Key here being also, you're not alone!) I tried to make the leap several times, and I must say the single most valuable resource I found are the rich experinces of the memebers here. (So HOOT to all of you, if I haven't said it before.)
Best Regards,
Scott
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, and no simpler."
mgagnon (Programmer)
Ilya
You can start with "Teach Yourself VFP 3.0 In 21 Days"
How woudl that help him if he is trying to learn VFP7.0?
Mike Gagnon
It's quite simple, really: if he's already a programmer - it'll give him a quick headstart in learning the XBase database structures - tables, indices, etc. - and some basic commands for their manipulations (i.e. USE, SET FILTER, SKIP, INDEX ON, etc.) That's, of course, IF he is a programmer. If he's not - then the way Scott (TheManiac) suggested would be better. The third way would be to enroll in some college into dBase class (it's a shame they do not teach Fox instead of dBase out there).
"Teach Yourself <some language> In 21 Days" is for programmers who need to learn that <some language> quickly on 101 level. That's how I, knowing Basic, learnt Visual Basic in 1993 (doing some contract project on the side). After that, switching from FoxBase/FoxPro for DOS to VFP (3.0 at that time, in 1996) was quite smooth.
Regards,
Ilya
Ilya
You can start with "Teach Yourself VFP 3.0 In 21 Days"
How woudl that help him if he is trying to learn VFP7.0?
Mike Gagnon
It's quite simple, really: if he's already a programmer - it'll give him a quick headstart in learning the XBase database structures - tables, indices, etc. - and some basic commands for their manipulations (i.e. USE, SET FILTER, SKIP, INDEX ON, etc.) That's, of course, IF he is a programmer. If he's not - then the way Scott (TheManiac) suggested would be better. The third way would be to enroll in some college into dBase class (it's a shame they do not teach Fox instead of dBase out there).
"Teach Yourself <some language> In 21 Days" is for programmers who need to learn that <some language> quickly on 101 level. That's how I, knowing Basic, learnt Visual Basic in 1993 (doing some contract project on the side). After that, switching from FoxBase/FoxPro for DOS to VFP (3.0 at that time, in 1996) was quite smooth.
Regards,
Ilya
All good advice...
I am the archetypical rock brain and I have followed Scott's algorithm...
Only thing I would add is (1) to do it, (2) make mistakes, (3) use TT folk to get you over the problem... (4) then fail again... (the failing bit is important)
do while .not. competant
make mistake
try again
enddo
All good rock brains just keep on tryin'
John Fox
PS Scott usually suggests eBay for the AppDev disks. I found them there at considerable savings . But you do need to go through them repeatedly ... they are not complete, nor do they claim to be, but they DO help.
Hacker's Guide I've got, difficult it is.
I am the archetypical rock brain and I have followed Scott's algorithm...
Only thing I would add is (1) to do it, (2) make mistakes, (3) use TT folk to get you over the problem... (4) then fail again... (the failing bit is important)
do while .not. competant
make mistake
try again
enddo
All good rock brains just keep on tryin'
John Fox
PS Scott usually suggests eBay for the AppDev disks. I found them there at considerable savings . But you do need to go through them repeatedly ... they are not complete, nor do they claim to be, but they DO help.
Hacker's Guide I've got, difficult it is.
Have a peek at
You might find something useful in there. I personally wouldn't want to print the entire thing (you'll know what I'm talking about when you get there) ub it's useful for quick search.
Cheers,
Realm174
You might find something useful in there. I personally wouldn't want to print the entire thing (you'll know what I'm talking about when you get there) ub it's useful for quick search.
Cheers,
Realm174
Mike Gagnon
Programmer
realm174
You might find something useful in there. I personally wouldn't want to print the entire thing (you'll know what I'm talking about when you get there)
I was told recently that the suggestion you just made, might be pointing at some illegal copies of some publications.
Mike Gagnon
If you want to get the best response to a question, please check out FAQ184-2483 first.
You might find something useful in there. I personally wouldn't want to print the entire thing (you'll know what I'm talking about when you get there)
I was told recently that the suggestion you just made, might be pointing at some illegal copies of some publications.
Mike Gagnon
If you want to get the best response to a question, please check out FAQ184-2483 first.
A long list of VFP books (and reviews of some of them) can be found here:
Mike Lewis
Programmer
Stewart,
That Fox Wiki URL worked OK for me. Could be that it was busy or something when you tried.
There are also some VFP book reviews on my own site, at:
Mike
Mike Lewis
Edinburgh, Scotland
That Fox Wiki URL worked OK for me. Could be that it was busy or something when you tried.
There are also some VFP book reviews on my own site, at:
Mike
Mike Lewis
Edinburgh, Scotland
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