edir remotely

[terry712]

when you install edir 8.whatever

when it reboots and does it all its bits - when you get to the bit that says no-local or yes - rconsole

if you say yes - rconsole - obviously you dont get the 3 screens that you need to next through - what does it do at these -does it assume defaults?

also if you get an error during this part - ie sas , pki etc - does it continue and you just need to log at sys:etc/certserv - logs etc or ?

 

[marvhuffaker]

yes it assumes defaults. But I hate that option. Even though it tries to do a scripted install, every time I've tried it, it comes up with a login prompt as soon as the GUI loads. And so you're SOL if you're not at the server.
Seems to defeat the purpose of asking the question in the first place. I've also seen errors happen, and those also halt the process.

My best advice Terry, is to be at the server when you're doing it, unless you have a RILO in there (I know you're a compaq fan).



Marvin Huffaker MCNE, CNE
Marvin Huffaker Consulting

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[terry712]

rilo would be nice but it's for a couple of 350's and they unfortuanately dont have them

i was just curious as i updated a server the other day and it stop at the end with a 678 pki install doesnt like your SAS -

i deleted sas and then uinstall edir and reinstalled and ok but it got me thinking what would have happened with yes remote prompt

 

[Provogeek]

Terry,

As Marvin points out, it just runs a script. The GUI still fires up, but if you hit an error, you need a monkey at the console to click OK. Kinda sucks many of the new software apps Novell is selling require that lame GUI to install. Makes remote offices a but of a pain.

There is a solution however. Redirect the GUI to your local workstation. It rocks, I love it, makes life so much easier. As we all know, a trained monkey is more than capable of hitting that OK button, but we are all out of trained monkeys and we have to deal with humans out at these remote offices. So to avoid this frustration (just not very good with phone support my self), I redirect the GUI to my laptop.

To do this I use an NCF file with these entries in it:

java
envset display=172.16.1.142:0
startx

Make sure the IP address is that of your workstation. So just unload Java, then execute this NCF file at the server console. Have an Xserver running on your workstation for it to attach to. As soon as you execute startx with the envset display to your notebook, you will see the GUI on your remote system just a few minutes later. The XServer I found that works well for me is WinaXe, cheaper than most and works great.

So for an eDir install, just have the GUI already running on your remote system and just say local (or still remote if you want). You get the same GUI, same functionality.

Only problem I have run itto with this is installing the DirXML engine on NetWare. For some stupid reason, it will not allow you to click in the boxes to enter in user name and password for schema update portion of the install program.

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Brent Schmidt Certified nut case
Senior Network Engineer

http://www.kiscc.com

 

[marvhuffaker]

Brent, as always, we can count on you to have cool answers AND entertainment all in the same package.

I am going to try that right now, it looks so frikkin' easy. I read a TID about 3 years ago that was about 5 pages long, so it was somewhat discouraging.. And I've never ventured that direction.

Marv

Marvin Huffaker MCNE, CNE
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[Provogeek]

Yea, it is fun to play with and show off.

See ya at Brainshare Marvin.

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[terry712]

i'll give it a whirl

 

[terry712]

ok i've downloaded winaxe v6.7
install with typical - select xsession - select ip address of pc and then get a icon on taskbar saying it's running

load the ncf on server as per above

on logger screen i get

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.internalerror: can't connect to X11 window server using 10.40.67.131 as the value of the display variable

then a bunch of at .com stuff

on the physical server the startx hasnt generated the screen - it's just white

if i start it normally on server then it's ok and it's just set to 800 by 600 256 colours

i will have a scan through the winaxe book

any thoughts or suggestion though

 

[terry712]

ok i dont get the java error any more - never noticed the :0 on ip address

dont get the screen but assume it's something i'm doing wrong on xserevr on pc

 

[Provogeek]

I just run XServer and a window pops up, just let it sit there and when you execute teh start x with the envset command done, the screen should pop up.

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Senior Network Engineer

http://www.kiscc.com

 

[marvhuffaker]

Terry, when I first installed it on mine, it acted wierd too. I'd see it blended into all my desktop icons and I couldn't get it to show up consistently. So I messed with the Xserver settings and was able to tell it to use a window instead of full screen and since then it has worked really well.

Brent, I have another question. Okay, It's great that it works well when the server is up, and now my life is complete. But Terry's original question was about the eDir install. In that situation, you don't have the luxury of having the server fully loaded. How do you handle it when it's pretty much automated once the server reboots? Do you just insert your batch file into the autoexec file?

Marvin Huffaker MCNE, CNE
Marvin Huffaker Consulting

http://www.redjuju.com

 

[Provogeek]

huh? You must be using a different install utility than I am familure with.

You start the eDir install, it copies files and does some stuff, reboots the server with out prompting. Server comes back up and does some more stuff, copies more files, and extends the schema. Then it sits there and asks, Local or Remote? At that time, go to server console prompts, unload java, reload it with the envset command (or NCF file), and run Startx to load the GUI. Once loaded, return to the NWCONFIG install screen and tell it what method you choose (since it really doesn't matter at this point).

There is a really nice TID that goes over this up on the support site, it also tells you how to set it up to load the GUI remote everytime XWindows is loaded. Never done it that way so I am not sure how to make it work (tried, failed, didn't care enough to look into it).

NetWare upgrades and installs is another story.

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Brent Schmidt Certified nut case
Senior Network Engineer

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[marvhuffaker]

huh what?

Yes, that's the process that I normally go through. I was just wondering at what point it was that you envoked the NCF file that you created. But you just answered that, so thanks.



Marvin Huffaker MCNE, CNE
Marvin Huffaker Consulting

http://www.redjuju.com

 

[terry712]

will have another play later
i read the tid and it did give me a clue about not allowing a connection
there is also a cool solutions doc on it - using cyiwin so will give it ago when have more time

i will try a window as mine is set to full