DVD H+ to TV link = no colors 1

[deadmeat2k]

Hi!

I have a Hollywood+ (newest driver v. 1.8.2), wich I've connected to my TV. My problem is that i get no colors on the TV. The picture is alright except for the colors (so Macrovision is NOT the issue - I've already tried Zoneselector and Universal selector).

My TV:
Samsung TV with two scart plugs + 1 comopsite in.

My PC:
Hollywood+ (original sigma model)
Pioneer 104s 10x DVD

I've tried to send the signal to the TV through both s-vhs (converted through scart - I've tried with two different scart converters) and composite (=it is not damaged cables that causes the problem) with the same result: no colors.

converting between NTSC and PAL is not the problem either since I experience the same problem with both region 1 and 2 movies...

I really hope that any of you guys can help 'cause I'm getting desperate (sigma designs own support has been unable to help ).

PLEASE HELP!

 

[Karl Blessing]

try changing your TV out option, from PAL to NSTC

I've had the same problem, only to fix it, by changing the format. or forcing the format
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[deadmeat2k]

This is not the issue (I've already tried). Also: My TV supports all formats (PAL, PAL60, NTSC 3.56, NTSC 4.46 (can't remember the ecsact NTSC numbers... but they are about 3.56 and 4.46).
By the way: in advanced options in dvd station (DVD player supplied with card), there is an option to ajust the video frequency (or somthing like that - it's running from 0-120), this I have also already tried.

 

[Karl Blessing]

Then I must ask if you are using the correct S-Video to RCA Adapter, I also had the problem when using the Adapter that came with my video card (TV Out) rather than the adapter that came with the Decoder.
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[deadmeat2k]

I asume you are talking about the S-vhs to composite adapter bundled with the H+ card... I am pretty sure we can leave that case behind since I also get the error with s-vhs ( the s-vhs to composite adapter isn't used in this case, remember).

(Im not easy to satisfy, am I!?) (anyway I REALLY repreciate your effort! -not many have dared dealing with my problem).

 

[Karl Blessing]

No I'm talking about S-Video (4 pin, circular) to RCA (like AV Cables)
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[deadmeat2k]

RCA or composite... it is the same.
(I checked some pictures at this address:

http://www.pccables.com/cgi-bin/ord...14&search=SVHS&rsite=www.pccables.com&rcode=.

)

I am not using it since the s-vhs cable that is plugged into the H+ card goes directly into the s-vhs-in port on the scart converter wich again is plugged into the TV...
(In other words: I don't convert the signal since there is no need to)

Illustrated:


H+ card |--- s-vhs out------s-vhs in---|scart|TV

Also: when I used composite (RCA) I used the converter that was supplied with the card...

 

[Karl Blessing]

oh so you got it going directly on S-video cable, no composite in between, well you sure you got the settings set to use Svideo
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[Karl Blessing]

to tell you what I mean, as to being stupid, I use those adaters

H+ -> Adapter -> RCA Cable -> Adapter back to Svideo -> TV

you end up with Black and white, so the same effect in my theory would cause this, if you just use a straight S-Video, but still have the machine output via Componsite signal.

since when you use RCA adapters, or have a composite signal, you are no longer using the 2 other pins on the SVHS(as you like to call it) cable
Karl
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[ray436]

methinks Karl is right, you've inadvertantly lost the Chroma from the signal by a mismatch in cable choice and signal selection.

 

[deadmeat2k]

So, basicly my I will have to (1) convert from s-VIDEO (is that better? ) to composite with the bundled cable. (2) Then via a comosite cable convert it again into s-vhs and (3) THEN convert it again via my scart? (!) (could give some terrible signal distortion...)

But hey, if thats what it takes - so be it - I'll give it a shot...

 

[Karl Blessing]

well actually I was thinking more of keeping it Svhs S-Video, and just making sure in the software, that it's sending the signal out as S-Video and not as Composite.
Karl
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[deadmeat2k]

Well, actually, I've checked that already... Besides, my DVD player is able to detect wether it is s-vhs or composite that is plugged into the H+ card, so I haven't even got the option of changing it, since the software detects it automaticly... My TV doesn't care if the signal is s-video or composite either, since both signals are put through scart...