Do I have to run the Security Wizard when creating the user level security? I cannot get the Security Wizard to work at all...it goes through the motions then gives me an error stating that: "The Save operation failed." I have gone through and complied all the codes (Thank you to tlbroadbent - who always comes through!). I am at my wits end here....so, I was wondering. If I want to set up groups and attach users, do I HAVE TO run the security wizard to create the secured database (I can't hink of anything else)? "Try everything at least once."