Deleteing Trunk Routes Cancelling Tie Lines

[Tommy1967]

I,m so happy I found this forum, It's fantastic.
Our company has gone through some reductions and I am in the process if cleaning up our Option 81 PBX. Could someone help me in the right direction to cancelling Truck Routes and Disconnecting Tie lines. Thanks in advance

 

[NortelGuy1979]

First you would out the trunks in LD 14, then once all the trunks are gone from a route, you can out the route in LD 16. You will need to make sure that route is not in any of your RLI's in LD 86. -Matt

Matt H.
TMC - KCMO, USA

 

[Tommy1967]

Thanks Matt. To View these, Do I print the Trunk routes in LD 81?

 

[NortelGuy1979]

No - trunk routes are LD 21:

LD 21
REQ LTM
CUST 0
ROUT <x>

That will list the TN and member number and DES of each trunk in that route.

To print a RLB in your BARS/NARS setup, do:
LD 86
REQ PRT
CUST 0
FEAT RLB
RLI <x>

That will print the whole RLI and tell you what routes are in that RLI. -Matt

Matt H.
TMC - KCMO, USA

 

[Tommy1967]

That's awesome, I will try this out, and hopefully i wont delete the wrong Trunk.

 

[NortelGuy1979]

LOL - careful! Glad to help, post back if you need, we're all a helpful group! -Matt

Matt H.
TMC - KCMO, USA

 

[johnpoole]

ld 14
out
tie 24 (or did etc)
tn (enter the 1st tn)

that would take out a complete t1, jsut the trunks
then in 16 do a out rdb..

then in 86 prt rlb... to see which rli's are pointing to the ties.. then in ld 87 you'll need to prt cdp for all the dsc tsc and lsc's to find out which number were being set to those ties.. might not let you out the route, if it had an entry in 86....fyi

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[Tommy1967]

Thank you very much, This is soo helpful,I'm just gathering the info now. All these number are making my head spin. I will post what I find in here.

 

[Tommy1967]

Ok, This is the route that is not active
REQ: ltm
CUST 0
ROUT 8

TYPE TLST
TKTP TIE
ROUT 8
DES TIE_65 Toronto St
TN 024 01 MBER 1
TN 024 02 MBER 2
TN 024 03 MBER 3
TN 024 04 MBER 4
TN 024 05 MBER 5
TN 024 06 MBER 6
TN 024 07 MBER 7
TN 024 08 MBER 8
TN 024 09 MBER 9
TN 024 10 MBER 10
TN 024 11 MBER 11
TN 024 12 MBER 12
TN 024 13 MBER 13
TN 024 14 MBER 14
TN 024 15 MBER 15
TN 024 16 MBER 16
TN 024 17 MBER 17
TN 024 18 MBER 18
TN 024 19 MBER 19
TN 024 20 MBER 20
TN 024 21 MBER 21
TN 024 22 MBER 22
TN 024 23 MBER 23

The RLB associated with this route are

RLI 14
ENTR 0
LTER NO
ROUT 8
TOD 0 ON 1 ON 2 ON 3 ON
4 ON 5 ON 6 ON 7 ON
CNV NO
EXP NO
FRL 0
DMI 4
FCI 0
SBOC NRR
CBQ YES

ISET 1
NALT 5

RLI 15
ENTR 0
LTER NO
ROUT 8
TOD 0 ON 1 ON 2 ON 3 ON
4 ON 5 ON 6 ON 7 ON
CNV NO
EXP NO
FRL 0
DMI 4
FCI 0
SBOC NRR
CBQ YES

RLI 16
ENTR 0
LTER NO
ROUT 8
TOD 0 ON 1 ON 2 ON 3 ON
4 ON 5 ON 6 ON 7 ON
CNV NO
EXP NO
FRL 0
DMI 4
FCI 0
SBOC NRR
CBQ YES

RLI 25
ENTR 0
LTER NO
ROUT 8
TOD 0 ON 1 ON 2 ON 3 ON
4 ON 5 ON 6 ON 7 ON
CNV NO
EXP NO
FRL 0
DMI 0
FCI 0
SBOC NRR
CBQ NO

ISET 0
NALT 5


REQ prt
CUST 0
FEAT cdp
TYPE dsc
DSC
DSC 3210
RLI 154
NPA
NXX


REQ prt
CUST 0
FEAT cdp
TYPE tsc
TSC
TSC 50
RLI 14
TSC 5240
RLI 16
TSC 5241
RLI 16
TSC 5242
RLI 16
TSC 5243
RLI 16
TSC 5244
RLI 16
TSC 5245
RLI 16
TSC 5246
RLI 16
TSC 5247
RLI 16
TSC 5248
RLI 16
TSC 5249
RLI 16
TSC 53
RLI 15
TSC 54
RLI 15
TSC 5506
RLI 15
TSC 5507
RLI 15
TSC 5509
RLI 15
TSC 5708
RLI 15
TSC 572
RLI 15
TSC 573
RLI 15
TSC 5740
RLI 15
TSC 5741
RLI 15
TSC 5789
RLI 15
TSC 579
RLI 15

REQ prt
CUST 0
FEAT cdp
TYPE lsc
LSC
NONE

Now that this is said and done, I would go to Ld 14, out Route 8, then go into LD 16 and out RLI 14, 15 16 and 25? and cross my fingers nothing else goes down. In Load 87, I found that there a few numbers being set to the ties, How do I remove them or is it best to keep them active?

 

[NortelGuy1979]

Whoa - don't "OUT" the entire RLI's, unless there are no NXX, NPA, SPN, TSC, DSC, etc assigned to them. What type of route was this? or rather what was it used for? Was it a TIE to a PBX you no longer have? If so, you'll want to out those steering codes also; then you can out the RLI's. -Matt

Matt H.
TMC - KCMO, USA

 

[johnpoole]

ld 14
out 23
tie
24 1

that will out the trunks..

then in 87
out the
tsc's

then you'll need to stat and dis dch the dchannel.. to be outed later..then ld 60 stat and disl 24

then out the route in 16... also in 17 prt the adan dch x

a stat in 60 will give you the dch x

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[Tommy1967]

It was a link between our main building to another building that has an option 11. We had a tie line connecting the two sites, so people within the company would be able to dial and forward recorded messages internally, Now with cut backs, and a savings af $1200 a month, there is no need for this route. Oh yeah the stering codes, I forgot about those.

 

[johnpoole]

you can print the npa's nxx and spn's in go to see if any other calls are going out that route... we send some ld calls out on tie routes so they can route local on the far end.. that is heavnma's concern.. you do need to out the tsc's in 87 so those numbers will go back in the ludn table

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[NortelGuy1979]

I was just making sure it wasn't a route w/ other stuff in it that was local, etc - suddenly no calls would go out Proceed -Matt

Matt H.
TMC - KCMO, USA

 

[Tommy1967]

Oh yeah, there's a whole bunch on Route 9, I just listed what was associated with route 8.

 

[johnpoole]

always pays to check, outed a loop for a guy over the phone once, he didn't know how to out a terq and add a supl in the same slot... he called back and said i had outed the wronge loop... after removing 300 phones...ouch.. had him do a cold restart... otherwise i would have had to but a ticket to show hom how to do a relaod from disk

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[Tommy1967]

Yeah that happened to me too, that's why im edgy doing this, and that Black out a few years ago was a disaster for us and the back up tape got fried.
I will check Ld 60 and proceed with my task.
You guys rock, thanks for all your help, You have made my day.

 

[johnpoole]

best thing you can do is make a new disk, at least once a week and take it out of the switch room.. i make 2 copies a day, and save the two i am replacing, each of them are 12 hours apart or so.. i keep 10 disk, two per day and 5 backup mermail tapes.. 4 partial, and one (weekend) full.. got burned on full backup from the mail.. seems a full backup formats the drive before the install.. the os was on the tape was non-bootable... doing a new install worked great, even nortel couldn't retrieve the users and menu's off of a full backup, with the os in the way... had to retype 1800 non documented voice mail boxes.. just did a list of everyone (7000) users that had fna or hta to 3301... 90 hour weekend

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc

 

[Tommy1967]

Holly smokes John, Thats a lot of programming, and I thought I had it bad. Just to give you guys an update, I have removed and cleaned up routes and Tie lie, with no problems. thank you for your advise, it was really handy.

 

[Tommy1967]

Holly smokes John, Thats a lot of programming, and I thought I had it bad. Just to give you guys an update, I have removed and cleaned up routes and Tie line, with no problems. thank you for your advise, it was really handy.