I tried Asc and Val, neither worked. I had been trying with chr which I've used in other applications, but couldn't get it to work either. I've done duplex and tray selection before with PCL, with other development tools, Crystal just doesn't want to behave. I've faxed several doc's to Crystal haven't heard back yet. I just can't believe you can't control your printers via PCL with Crystal. I'm still trying.