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AMD usually gives you more bang for the buck and there are no drawbacks to using AMD. Most do-it-yourselfers swear by AMD. And these days they both need adequate ventilation and fannage, so there is no difference there either.
With intel though, you have to make sure the power supply has the extra 4 pin 12 volt connector and with AMD you dont need it, but with AMD you do need to make sure you have an adequate power supply, a bit moreso than with intel. But with the money you will have invested in your cpu alone, i dont see you using a cheap power supply!
The money saved on the cpu by going with AMD can go toward a new power supply if needed!
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With intel though, you have to make sure the power supply has the extra 4 pin 12 volt connector and with AMD you dont need it, but with AMD you do need to make sure you have an adequate power supply, a bit moreso than with intel. But with the money you will have invested in your cpu alone, i dont see you using a cheap power supply!
The money saved on the cpu by going with AMD can go toward a new power supply if needed!
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garebo
There are few points on which I don't necessarily agree with you.
Nearly all Athlon64 motherboards require the additional 4pin connector.
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All new power supplies have this connection anyway!
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Prescott Core P4's generally consume slightly more power than the equivelent Athlon64.
So a better PSU isn't the sole demain of an Athlon64 system, besides it's not just modern CPU's that require more power, it's the periferals that go with a modern systems, things like graphics cards.
I would always recommend a quality branded power supply as the backbone to any reliable system anyway.
The original question!
This is not as easy to answer as it first appeared!
This Athlon64 3300?? turns out to be an OEM HP/Compaq processor.
A TRUE Athlon64 with 256 L2 cache (one of the later cores) and with 64bit instructions, BUT
Based on the less desireable 754 socket!
With a clock speed of 2.4ghz it is 200mhz faster than the A64 3.2+ so it deserves it's rating but I question the logic in buying a 754 platform based system.
Yes it will be quicker than the P4 519 (3.06ghz) but my reasoning is the 754 is old now, doesn't have dual channel memory and will be phased out in favour of 939.
Buy an Athlon64 but on the 939 platform (the Nforce4) is the most desireable ATM but if you want to stick to a traditional layout and already have your graphics card etc then a 939 mainboard based on the Nforce3 250, Via K8T800pro or K8T890 chipset.
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There are few points on which I don't necessarily agree with you.
Nearly all Athlon64 motherboards require the additional 4pin connector.
and
All new power supplies have this connection anyway!
and
Prescott Core P4's generally consume slightly more power than the equivelent Athlon64.
So a better PSU isn't the sole demain of an Athlon64 system, besides it's not just modern CPU's that require more power, it's the periferals that go with a modern systems, things like graphics cards.
I would always recommend a quality branded power supply as the backbone to any reliable system anyway.
The original question!
This is not as easy to answer as it first appeared!
This Athlon64 3300?? turns out to be an OEM HP/Compaq processor.
A TRUE Athlon64 with 256 L2 cache (one of the later cores) and with 64bit instructions, BUT
Based on the less desireable 754 socket!
With a clock speed of 2.4ghz it is 200mhz faster than the A64 3.2+ so it deserves it's rating but I question the logic in buying a 754 platform based system.
Yes it will be quicker than the P4 519 (3.06ghz) but my reasoning is the 754 is old now, doesn't have dual channel memory and will be phased out in favour of 939.
Buy an Athlon64 but on the 939 platform (the Nforce4) is the most desireable ATM but if you want to stick to a traditional layout and already have your graphics card etc then a 939 mainboard based on the Nforce3 250, Via K8T800pro or K8T890 chipset.
Martin
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Didnt know that about the athlon 64's. Still working with xp's, so i stand corrected.
As for the power supply, i was mainly pointing out that amd cpu's are often a bit stickier as to the needed specs on certain rails, should have made myself more clear there.
Then again, with the newest amd cpu's and the newest P4 cpus, you simply better have a good power supply.
A good power supply is so important. Last night i saw a video explaining that a power supply can have all acceptable voltage ratings, checked by a quality multimeter and still cause lockups and other problems. It pointed out that we are prone to blaming the ram and other items when in fact is because the power supply is simply a cheap one.
The video either said outright or implied that most new systems bought dont have an adequate power supply. Could be that the power supply gets by but when the owner starts adding a new dvd burner, maybe a better vid card, and on and on, next thing you know the power supply is not adequate.
Bottom line, heard it here enuf, start with a good power supply, its the engine of the car, junk engine=junk car.
I believe there are faq's here about this. If not, google will find them.
ON the other hand, i shouldnt have posted as i dont know enuf about these newer cpu's. Better stick with what i do know.
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As for the power supply, i was mainly pointing out that amd cpu's are often a bit stickier as to the needed specs on certain rails, should have made myself more clear there.
Then again, with the newest amd cpu's and the newest P4 cpus, you simply better have a good power supply.
A good power supply is so important. Last night i saw a video explaining that a power supply can have all acceptable voltage ratings, checked by a quality multimeter and still cause lockups and other problems. It pointed out that we are prone to blaming the ram and other items when in fact is because the power supply is simply a cheap one.
The video either said outright or implied that most new systems bought dont have an adequate power supply. Could be that the power supply gets by but when the owner starts adding a new dvd burner, maybe a better vid card, and on and on, next thing you know the power supply is not adequate.
Bottom line, heard it here enuf, start with a good power supply, its the engine of the car, junk engine=junk car.
I believe there are faq's here about this. If not, google will find them.
ON the other hand, i shouldnt have posted as i dont know enuf about these newer cpu's. Better stick with what i do know.
Good advice + great people = tek-tips
garebo
Respect to you.
Any post the points out the inadequacies of generic power supplies and the need nowadays to have a quality PSU gets a thumbs up by me. plus a star.
I was just wondering if acebaby was able to purchase this Athlon64 3300+ seperately or was this user comparing ready made systems?
Just that I've never seen this CPU on sale before only as part of a HP/Compaq system.
Martin
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Respect to you.
Any post the points out the inadequacies of generic power supplies and the need nowadays to have a quality PSU gets a thumbs up by me. plus a star.
I was just wondering if acebaby was able to purchase this Athlon64 3300+ seperately or was this user comparing ready made systems?
Just that I've never seen this CPU on sale before only as part of a HP/Compaq system.
Martin
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First of all, I am confused by the 519 name of the P4. According to this chart, the 519 never officially existed:
So perhaps it is a 518 overclocked? If so, that's even worse since the 518 runs on a 133MHz FSB (533MHz theoretical). Either way, I would say of the two the Athlon 64 is the better pick, regardless of being paired up with the 754 chipset without dual-channel.
The price ought to justify going with either, since there are plenty of better choices out there...
And for the record, AMD generally excels in all-around office categories and also in gaming. Intel on the other hand has held on to the reigns for audio/video editing and other forms of multimedia encoding/decoding. This is true when comparing similarly matched Athlons vs. P4's.
~cdogg
[tab][navy]For general rules and guidelines to get better answers, click here:[/navy] faq219-2884
So perhaps it is a 518 overclocked? If so, that's even worse since the 518 runs on a 133MHz FSB (533MHz theoretical). Either way, I would say of the two the Athlon 64 is the better pick, regardless of being paired up with the 754 chipset without dual-channel.
The price ought to justify going with either, since there are plenty of better choices out there...
And for the record, AMD generally excels in all-around office categories and also in gaming. Intel on the other hand has held on to the reigns for audio/video editing and other forms of multimedia encoding/decoding. This is true when comparing similarly matched Athlons vs. P4's.
~cdogg
[tab][navy]For general rules and guidelines to get better answers, click here:[/navy] faq219-2884
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