I've tried all of these suggestions to no avail. I've been watching these forums for a few weeks and I have to say I'm impressed with the quality of professional folks that are on these treads. Being new to access I've gain a lot of help from these forums on this web site. I thank you all for your help. Compared to the rest I've seen over the years these forums seem to have their priotries straight and everyone appears to be very professional. I thank you for that. No bs found here. So.. now that I've said this... and tried these suggestions with the charts and access... I've concluded I not only can't figure out how to get the chart program and access to work together, I hate using these charts on my reports. But I have to.. soooooooooo.. What I've concluded is I need some serious help understanding what it's trying to do. Cause I do not get the results I'm after .. I do not get them to update automatically as the folks enter new data, and when I print out the report all I get is a blank chart. Anyone have any suggestions of where I can go to get find some training for using charts in Access Reports. Bummed here in Hampton Virginia. Thanks in advance. Marie