Thanks all for your help, I sorted it in the end by doing some research, I think the main problem was that this was an Evesham pc with a program called "go back" installed from the factory, and it just didnt agree with what I was trying to do! I have built many pc`s and never come across this problem before of hanging a hard off of a free IDE Channel and veiwing the files,so maybe we can all learn a lesson here! check the sofware on the old hard drive before installing the new and trying to run them both together, if the old has a program called "GO BACK" then beware, remove go back before doing anything else then hopefully you should be able to hang the old hard off of any IDE channel and view the files in my computer and copy what you want, and then do what needs to be done with the old drive.