border around TIFF

[LuAnnL]

I'm still fairly new at InDesign. Using InDesign CS3.

I need to place four small graphs on a page. The graphs came to me as a Powerpoint file. I right clicked on each slide and saved each as a TIFF.

When I view (or insert) the TIFF in any other program, there are no borders. But when I place the TIFFs in InDesign, I get a border.

Unfortunately, the edge of each graph is VERY VERY CLOSE to this border, so I can't just "float" the image within the graphics frame to "hide" that pesky border.

Four small graphs, each with its own border makes the page MUCH too busy. Unfortunately, I don't have any programs for manipulating, re-creating, or combining the images.

Any hints?

 

[apepp]

...to begin with a powerpoint tif file is likely to be very low resolution and not suitable for high end output, so be wary of that...

...you might be better off, if possible, copy the chart from powerpoint (graph view) and pasting into illustrator, as this would then be vector drawn, scalable to any size...

...other alternative is to save out of powerpoint to pdf or print to postscript and distill in acrobat distiller...

..of course if your not bothered by quality of reproduction then saving out of powerpoint to a bitmap format (jpg, tif etc) will result in low resolution...

Andrew

 

[eugenetyson]

What Andrew said. You need to Print the pages to PDF and insert the PDFs into InDesign.

When you go to print, in the printer drop down menu look for Adobe PDF.

As for floating the image in the box without a border.

Are the borders inside the Powerpoint slide? Are the borders being created when you make a box inside InDesign?


If it's on the box in InDesign, go to, Windows>Stroke and set it to 0pt

If it's in the powerpoint slide, then either take it off the powerpoint slide before you make the file for indesign, or resize your box using your mouse in InDesign so the border is covered up.

 

[apepp]

...also to add...

...from my experience printing to pdf results in a bitmap version of the powerpoint graph, so bear this in mind too...

...the only way i have managed to create a scalable graph is to copy chart from powerpoint and paste to illustrator...

Andrew

 

[LuAnnL]

I work for a state research department which publishes a large amount of information on a very tight schedule. (Nothing we do would qualify as "high end" by any stretch of the imagination... but it IS necessary for these graphs to be readable! )

I don't have much control over the format of the files that come my way. I just have to insert them into a document that is hundreds of pages long, cobbled together from various sources. Usually, I don't have the time to remake a file if it comes to me in a low resolution.

I'm still fuzzy about the difference in quality between a tiff and a pdf. I saw the "save as TIFF" option in Powerpoint and gave it a try.... and it would have been fast and simple... except for those borders!

Thanks again for helping out a newbie!

 

[eugenetyson]

The difference between a TIFF and PDF is that a tiff is bitmap, it's made up of pixels and these pictures cannot be increased in size without losing quality.

A PDF however can utilise a Raster/bitmap image and it can still contain vector images. I wrote a post over on the Illustrator section here on the difference.

http://tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1439023&page=1

But a PDF can contain both Raster and Vector data. Type is vector, a picture is not, unless it's created using a vector program.

If you were to put type from a graph into TIFF then the type is rasterised. Meaning that it will go fuzzy if the size is increased. But if you have it as PDF it will remain vector.

I was hoping that the Graphs themselves would remain vector, but as pointed out earlier, they do not, they are rasterised.