Bios update gone seriously wrong.

[JSD7878]

System:
MB: Abit P35PRO
Vid: EVGA GTX8800
CPU: Intel 6850 Core Duo 3.0ghz
RAM: Ballistix 2GB at PC2-8500
PS: 850 WATT Antec
OS: Vista Home Premium 32bit (yes I know should have gotten 64bit)

Lastest drivers installed on all devices including the 8800 GTX video card.

Original issue: This was a new build and the system was semi- stable, meaning that about one time per day I was getting a blue screen random error.

Blue screen error stated: Driver_Irql_Not_Less_or_Equal
Techincal information: Stop: 0X00000001 (OX00000008, 0X00000002, OX0000001, 0X806595B2)

ndid.sys-address 806595b2 Base at 80634000, Datestamp 4549B2FD

My first thought to fix this was that perhaps the Bios needed to be updated so I checked Abit's USA website and to my disappointment no Bios listed there (the motherboard not listed there either) but their Taiwan Website did have a new Bios update going from the original Bios 10 as shipped on the MB to Bios 11 which is the newest one created in July, I attempted to do this update with their Driver Utility through Vistas. Again to my disappointment it hung in the middle of install which is where my real frustration has begun, after attempting to clear the CCMOS several times and no luck, I now have a dead box and I am unclear of what to do next to get an original Bios back up and working on this new build. Thanks for any help you can offer me and I hope I have provided enough detail.

 

[kmcferrin]

It sounds like you have bricked the mainboard. Your best bet now would be to contact Abit support and either get them to send you a new BIOS chip or replacement mainboard. Some motherboards have dual or redundant BIOS chips, or other methods of protecting against a BIOS flash gone bad, but it doesn't appear that your board does.

 

[ArizonaGeek]

Most BIOS updates can be performed from a floppy, no OS needed. You might try to find either the 10 or retry the updated 11 from a bootable floppy. No guarantees it'll work but at this point you've nothing to lose.

Here is instructions from Abit's website. Good luck!

Cheers
Rob

The answer is always "PEBKAC!

 

[JSD7878]

Thanks kmcferrin, I have contacted Abit and they agreed with your thoughts regarding this issue, they are sending me a new Bios chip free of charge. They explained that having a Bio's chip tool makes it much easier but that I could remove the chip with a very small flat head screw driver? Should I get the tool instead? Where can one get one, Radio Shack? As I can only imagine if I made something else worse by doing something wrong in this process.

 

[JSD7878]

Thanks Rob, your very correct as right now the box is a brick, so perhaps I will try that, however my custom built pc does not have 3.5 floppy, but perhaps I should add one for this purpose if for nothing else.

 

[cjelec]

If there is a shop close to you that sells a chip remover then I would buy one (they are very cheap). Otherwise a small flat screwdriver will work if you are careful.

I have just brought a 8800 GTX, and I had a BSOD. With help, I fixed it by removing the nVidia driver (Add/Remove apps) and downloading the latest one from their website (See thread602-1397534). It does seem to be a common problem with the 8800 because searching the web I found lots of other people complaining about it.

Hope that you get your pc up and running.

 

[JSD7878]

Hi cjelec,

Oh I totally agree, the drivers supplied by the cd in the package are nearly always outdated, thus I always go to nVidia's website and download there latest drivers rather than relying on the manufacturers version. Which I had done prior but to my fustration still have BSOD's but funny once per day only and random.

After doing a little research googling this particular BSOD message it refers to the ndis.sys file as being a LAN system file, so again I am wondering could this in my particular scenario fall back to being and out of date motherboard Bio's issue? The tech at a Abit didn't seem to think so. Thanks for everyone's suggestions thus far.

 

[wahnula]

I have a chip remover. I have had it for 30 years. Used it once, on a VERY long IC. My favorite chip puller is a small pair of channel-lock pliers (and once a comically large pair). Never let me down. Bottom line, many things can work. And since the chip coming out is getting canned, I would pay attention to the notched side and be more concerned with the installation of the new one rather than safe removal of the old one.

Please post back once the BIOS chip arrives, there might still be a bad driver lurking...

Tony

 

[JSD7878]

Hi Tony, Excellent suggestions and I think you are correct as soon as I have a working pc my focus again will be to wait and see how long it takes to get a BSOD as I am guessing that the tech at Abit maybe quite right that the bios has little or nothing to do with my origin issue. I most likely will repost back guessing not until Wed/Thurs next week since we have a holiday coming.

Thanks again for everyone's support during a frustrating week and if anyone has more information on the ndis.sys BSOD error love to hear it.

 

[JSD7878]

Hello all, as suggested by Tony I am replying back, I have installed the latest Bios chip and my computer is now back in action. Thats the good part the not so good part is I am still receiving a BSOD ndis.sys error, If anyone cares to offer a suggestion I would be happy to hear it. Thanks in advance.

 

[cjelec]

Looking around, people have been uninstalling their network card, then re-installing the latest version from the manufacturers website.

This can be done by:

1) Download the driver (another pc would be handy)
2) Unplug the network cable (hopefully will stop the bsod)
3) Right click My Computer
4) Click Properties from the menu
5) Click the Hardware tab in the System Properties tab
6) Click the Device Manager button
7) Click the plus next to Network adapters
8) Select the one that you use to connect to the internet (Ethernet/Wireless...)
9) Right click on it and click Uninstall
10) Once its uninstalled:
11) Install the latest driver from the manufacturer
12) Restart may be needed.

And hopefully it will stop the bsod's

 

[JSD7878]

I am currently using the onboard LAN from my Abit motherboard, not sure if they have any updated drivers for this yet?

 

[JSD7878]

Just as an update, I found the Realtek drivers for my onboard LAN and they were updated in Aug 07 for vistas apparently the LAN drivers that come standard on the CD were for XP only, as soon as I updated to the new vista's LAN drivers, no more BSOD! Thank heavens...

So as recap if anyone has blue screen errors involving ndis.sys with an ABIT IP35 PRO motherboard it's not a bios update that you need, you need to update the Realtek LAN drivers to the newest version: 6.196.803.2007 once you update to this new driver your good to go.

 

[kmcferrin]

That would definitely cause the issue. The driver model has completely changed between XP and Vista, and they are not compatible.

 

[cjelec]

Glad to help.