Backlinks from Articles in Article Directories

[forumposters]

Do search engines like Google, Yahoo, and MSN count the links back to your site? Has anyone found that submitting many articles has alone significantly improved their postition in the SERPS for the anchor text that they use with their backlinks?

 

[ChrisHirst]

some they may, most they won't.

"Article" directories are about as much use as link directories for SE benefit.
Somewhere between none & zero.

Some opinions (including mine) on directories.

http://www.webmaster-talk.com/web-directories/91326-business-com-listing.html

http://www.webmaster-talk.com/web-directories/91354-how-to-tell-if-directory-ok.html

Chris.

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[1DMF]

So is the opinion that not all inbound links are the same.

how does google decide what inbounb links count and from whom.

I was going to do a massive directory submission to increase inbound links, I now feel that you beleive this gives nothing for PR and would be a waste of time.

is it specifically directories that google doesn't count and only other 'genuine' websites that link to you that do count?

Is that how it works?

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[ChrisHirst]

So is the opinion that not all inbound links are the same.

Links are links are links. links from "trusted" locations are a different thing entirely.

For directories the only criteria should be "could this send me qualified traffic". Which of course is the same for any link you are considering.

is it specifically directories that google doesn't count and only other 'genuine' websites that link to you that do count

Sort of;

Links that are of "value" for SEs are ones from pages that the SEs have determined are of value. The genre of the website the page is on has no distinction in determining the value.

The vast majority of "link directories" and "article directories" will never amount to anything truly useful as they are simply started as a cash cow for the paid submissions.


Chris.

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So long, and thanks for all the fish.

 

[1DMF]

so conclusion is , don't bother with directories unless you think they will bring direct targeted traffic.

Generally as a rule directories don't give you the SERPs or PR you hoped they would.

I was told that one directory you should/must get in was DMOZ , but was then told not anymore.

i've submitted to DMOZ finally, they were down for months, but still not been listed, should I even bother trying anymore ?

Though a little confused , if directories don't count for much, isn't Yahoo just a directory rather than a fully qualifed search engine?



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"If a shortcut was meant to be easy, it wouldn't be a shortcut, it would be the way!

 

[Foamcow]

as far as DMOZ is concerned, submit the site then forget it.

You may get listed quickly or it may take months or years to get listed. Nothing you can do about so it's not worth worrying about.

As for the benefits. Well, yeah.
It's a free link in from a 'trusted' site so it's worth it, but don't expect magic.

Yahoo! is both a search engine and a directory. There is more then 1 component to Yahoo!.

The genre of the website the page is on has no distinction in determining the value.

I take it that you don't mean that the theme or content of a page does not contribute to the SE's perceived value of a link to another page of a similar theme?

Surely if I had a page on ring binders a link from the Ring binder association of Great Britain would carry more 'weight' than a link from the local dog kennels' page?



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[ChrisHirst]

With the genre bit I was thinking more along the blog/directory/whatever lines.

There is always this dumb idea that blogs are somehow more "valuable"

I don't go with this "relevant" links stuff either

The Ring Binder Association of GB site could be a badly designed, uncrawlable, poorly promoted site so has no SE value at all, but the local kennels might have a great webmaster who is SE savvy and has done a bang on job in promoting the pages. But for qualified traffic you would get better results from the piece of crap.
SEs don't really care about themes & relevance, that's for real people. What SEs have are "trusted pages".

A few links from these pages (with or without the "right" anchor text) are of far more value for ranking purposes than hundreds of "relevant" links with carefully chosen wording.

A WMT post from a year ago on Relevancy




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So long, and thanks for all the fish.

 

[1DMF]

So instead of me wasting my time submitting to every directory under the sun, where do I find a list of trusted sites, which I might be able to get a link or two from?

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