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onpnt · May 31, 2002

real nit picky!!!
The center table color screen really dulls it out from the sides. Mainly the headings. color option in the blue shade might seem like it's not a grey'd out part to a form. You wanted brutal I give. Everything else looks great to me. mouseover fade to green is cool!! provide tools to let people become their best.

Wullie · May 31, 2002

Hi mate,

You are right, I did ask for you to be brutal and that was the kind of response I wanted.

I am not quite sure what you meant though.. Did you mean the actual cell colours or the text?

I have been trying to find a better colour for the text over the last few days and am now using black.

Thanks, I appreciate it.. Wullie

http://test.freshlookdesign.co.uk/index1.shtml

onpnt · May 31, 2002

The background of say "Server Information". It has a dull moss green look, making it look like a grey'd out form field or inactive. (not alive, dead, dull) Ever program in SAP? you know how you can grey out fields not editable? Reminds me of that. Perhaps I've been looking at that to long though. "SAP"

I always like to do this
<html>
<body>
<table width="100%">
<tr bgcolor="#669999"><font color="black">Server Information</tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>

shrink the test page with just the bar so it is a good size and have the page I can't figure out what color I want in it and change color code till they look good next to each other. When I get real frustrated I have a printout of all the hex codes and go thru every one till I get it. That's when it's real bad. Sounds like a stupid way of doing it but it's helped my alt-tab fingures from getting a cramp a few times.
provide tools to let people become their best.

onpnt · May 31, 2002

Thanks for the star Wullie, can't count how many times you've helped me out, So it's pretty cool getting to repay finally

You might want the star back after you see the rediculous way I try to match my colors.

provide tools to let people become their best.

Wullie · Jun 1, 2002

Hi mate,

I have made a test page with various colours on it so that you all can take a look to see what one you think looks best.

I know what colours I like best but I want to get others opinions as well.

And the original site again is

http://test.freshlookdesign.co.uk

Thanks in advance, Wullie

Wullie · Jun 1, 2002

Ok...

I have changed the colour scheme..

Can some more people please take a look and tell me what you think?

Thanks in advance, Wullie

onpnt · Jun 1, 2002

Hi wullie,
I like the new colors a lot.
I may not get it the 1st or 2nd time,
but how sweet that 15th time can be.

gcw1 · Jun 1, 2002

I like your new color scheme, but I personally thought the original one was better.

Glenn

SPYDERIX · Jun 1, 2002

Hi wullie,

As always you rise to the top and provide an excellent web-site. Looks good in both standard resolutions, and even looks good in NS. I know that it's very hard to get a site to look identical in both browsers.

Good Job [thumbsup2]

Boomerang · Jun 3, 2002

Hi wullie,

Your site looks GREAT !!! So, it's hard to find something to be butal...

Only one thing actually:
IE 4.0 don't accept the currentStyle.color property in the domouseover() function and activete an error-popup. So the backup style in your stylesheet don't work in that case.

So maybe you can add something in the domouseover() function like:

function domouseover()
if (IE4)
{skip function}
else
{here the original function}

If you skip this function, the stylesheet works OK,

Hope this helps,
Erik

<!-- My sport: Boomerang throwing !!
This year I will participate at the World Championships in Germany. (

http://www.endamcg.com/finland-gaa

!! Many Happy Returns !! -->

cian · Jun 3, 2002

Hi Wullie,

excellent job, looks great!!

Can I mention two things?

1. In the center content tables, the text in the first table "Server Information" starts higher than in the other tables below.
2. In the left column the second section is "Known Issues". Could there be a better title for this? "Domain Notice" etc etc...just a thought!

Great choice of colours, excellent job!
(where's the smiley button for jealous??)

É

Wullie · Jun 3, 2002

Thanks Guys,

Boomerang,

I was aware of a few issues with NS but not IE4. Unfortunatly, I can only test it in IE6 just now..

I am going to be using SSI conditional includes for NN anyway so I will just add in another browser check for IE4 and remove that function.

Until the other day, the only useful thing I thought you could do with SSI was to include external files in your pages, I have now found out that server side browser checks etc, can also be done and conditional includes based on the results.

Would you be able to test it again after I get this all fixed?

Cian,

Can I ask what browser you used to view the page? I don't see the difference in the first table. I will take a closer look at the code in about an hour and probably spot a stupid mistake.. [wink]

The "Known Issues" part just contains the server downtime info to get the correct format of the page, it will actually include any current problems with the server so I personally think that known issues sounds best. This is probably a language thing.. (US - UK)

Also, if anyone has any spare time on their hands, could you please check out the site in NN4.7. I have been going mad here to try to get the support button to appear correctly. When netscape loads the page, this image is not loaded, but instead sometimes appears up to 2 minutes after the completion of the page.

Thanks guys, I really do appreciate it,
Wullie

Boomerang · Jun 3, 2002

Hi wullie,

Of course I will test it again for you, but it depends on the date you have fixed it. At this moment (at this job) I use IE4.0 but I don't know when I leave here. There is a re-organisation going on , so it could be between 14 days and 2 month.

Just repley to this thread and ask me,

cheers,
Erik <!-- My sport: Boomerang throwing !!
This year I will participate at the World Championships in Germany. (

http://test.freshlookdesign.co.uk/ie4.shtml

!! Many Happy Returns !! -->

Wullie · Jun 3, 2002

Hi Boomerang,

Thanks..

I have set up the basic idea for the conditional includes at the following page. If you could take a look in IE4, view source and there should be a HTML comment saying that you are viewing in IE4 so the script has been removed.

If you see this comment then the check is working and I can then work on the actual includes that will take place instead.

Thanks a lot mate, Wullie

Boomerang · Jun 3, 2002

Hi Wullie,

All links work perfect in IE4 now !!
Here is the comment I found:



Erik

<!-- My sport: Boomerang throwing !!
This year I will participate at the World Championships in Germany. (

!! Many Happy Returns !! -->

Wullie · Jun 3, 2002

Thanks mate,

If I could give you 10 stars, I would..

Thanks again, Wullie

Boomerang · Jun 3, 2002

Hi Wullie,

Can you explain me about the SSI conditional includes you use like:

- which programming language
- technical principles

I maintain an ASP-intranet with serversite inludes and I'm wondering if that is the same.

Erik <!-- My sport: Boomerang throwing !!
This year I will participate at the World Championships in Germany. (

http://www.bignosebird.com/ssi.shtml

!! Many Happy Returns !! -->

Wullie · Jun 3, 2002

Hi mate,

It is Server Side Includes (SSI) that I am using..

For example, to include another page into an existing one, you would use the following:



or



To use the conditional includes, it is along the same lines as js using if and else statments. The code that I used on my page was the following..






<SCRIPT LANGUAGE='JAVASCRIPT' SRC="js/fade.js" TYPE='TEXT/JAVASCRIPT'></SCRIPT>


I will not explain that as I know that you will understand it..

You can also use echo statments to include the time, browser version, IP address etc, and because it is server side you don't have to worry about the user having js enabled..

If you want to read up more about this or other things that you can do, then check out the following link..

Hope this helps Wullie

Boomerang · Jun 5, 2002

wow !! Wullie,

I learned something new today

Nice technique, although you can do the same thing in your "normal" serverside script.

Thanx, a star for you !! <!-- My sport: Boomerang throwing !!
This year I will participate at the World Championships in Germany. (