Adding secondary IDE hard disk on PC with Primary SATA 1

[cyberspace]

A friend of mine bought a new PC.

I went round to fit his old HD as a secondary drive, so he could retrieve documents and such like.

It's an OLD IDE drive, with a capacity of 8mb.

The Primary drive is SATA. The only IDE connection available was from the CD-RW drive, so I disconnected it, then connected the IDE hard disk.

Booted up, and the disk was not showing up in My Computer. I tried both Cable Select and Slave jumper settings, and I could not get it to show. Checked the BIOS, it seemed to be showing a device attached but didn't have much meaningful information.

Is it a case that the disk is simply too old to be recognised by new hardware? Or have I missed something? I feel I may have done, as it is the first system I have worked on (from a hardware fitting perspective)that has had a SATA hard disk

Thanks

 

[garebo]

I notice you didnt try master setting for that ide drive. If you took out the cdrw drive and there is no other ide drive on the cable then your hard drive should go on the end of the cable and be master.


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[cyberspace]

thanks for the reply.

I had it on cable select, should this not have worked?

 

[garebo]

Im not sure exactly, but i think its a function between the bios and the hard drive itself. I think some bios and some hard drives dont handle cable select as well as others. It pretty much has to be between the bios and the drive itself as the os doesnt get into the mix until later.

So, cable select will work on some setups and wont on others. That is the part i know for sure, having experienced this myself.



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[powerflower]

I always advise settting jumpers for master/slave not using cable select... no confusion and you can then use either connector on the ribbon cable

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[garebo]

I never use cable select myself but i think its a matter of whatever you prefer or, in some cases, what will work and what wont. I see that others like to use cable select.

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[cyberspace]

I have never personally had any problems in the past, but perhaps this time it needs precise definition.

Not to worry though, as he has all the files back anyway now. Good for future reference though, so thanks.

 

[garebo]

I try to remember what we are talking about, the slave\master\cable select settings along with the fact that
some optical drives like cdroms, dvdroms, burners, and such have cable issues. The reason i say that is that some of these drives will work with either a 40 pin 80 conductor ultra ide 66\100 cable or the old standard 40 pin ide cable, while other drives will only work with one of the 2 cables and wont work with the other. The ide 33 standard 40 pin is the light gray cable with thicker wires inside it and the 80 conductor is darker gray with thinner wires inside.
I always remember both these things together since i will be dealing with both issues at the same time.

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[cyberspace]

Exellent information there garebo - thankyou, I did not know that!

 

[garebo]

You're welcome. I also take these pieces of advice and put them in notepad files and keep them all in one folder, so when i have a problem or need some info i look in there first.


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