Hi, thanks for your reply, I have tried your reply before (by accident, clicking to fast) and I can't seem to find a way back to design mode after I hide the db window and toolbars, I couldn't even find a successful way to rejoin either, all attempts would end in failure, I removed standard toolbars and removed shortcut keys and even with delieting the tables in the back end you can't import them to the front end if there isn't a db window for you to find them in, and once hidden, even with tools unhide the table or form doesn't show up in that list.
so I think by accident I may have stumbled apon a fairly easy way to secure a DB, I have go as far as to attempt renaiming tables and columns to produce errore messages with Debug as an option to trap that message so the end user doesn't have a chance to screw with the code.
Do you know of an easy way to explain the secuity wizard so it will make since to me,
Here's what I would need for it to do , prevent users from editing anytable that does not end in "LU" directly and prevent copy,past, edit for all users , and have an 2 admin accounts 1 with full privleges and 1 with privleges to edit eables directly but no cut,copy, or past