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70-291 Subnetting Q's 1
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Smooth23,
I took the 70-291 well over a year ago, and at that time there were no simulations, and I got a single subnetting question. Both of these are probably changed by now.
To address your specific question, the subnetting question I got was the most simly worded question I've seen on any MS exam. It was something to the effect of:
What is the range of valid IP addresses for 10.0.0.0/18?
The MS Press book doesn't really cover IP subnetting in the detail required to answer this question correctly, but it was only one question when I took the exam.
Wishdiak
A+, Network+, Security+, MCSA: Security 2003
I took the 70-291 well over a year ago, and at that time there were no simulations, and I got a single subnetting question. Both of these are probably changed by now.
To address your specific question, the subnetting question I got was the most simly worded question I've seen on any MS exam. It was something to the effect of:
What is the range of valid IP addresses for 10.0.0.0/18?
The MS Press book doesn't really cover IP subnetting in the detail required to answer this question correctly, but it was only one question when I took the exam.
Wishdiak
A+, Network+, Security+, MCSA: Security 2003
BenChristian
IS-IT--Management
I took the 70-291 ealier this year. I got quite a few questions relating to subnetting. Make sure you understand IP addressing, including subnetting, IP address classes, and public/private addressing. I studied from several books, and only some of them covered subnetting and IP addressing in detail. Also, the exam objectives don't specifically mention subnetting which surprises me considering the type of questions that I got.
I got a question on supernetting which through me off a bit as I hadn't come across it before, so you may want to research that too.
I'm currently studying for the 70-293 exam which covers a lot of the same material. If you're aiming for the MCSE, then you might as well learn subnetting properly now so that it will make 70-293 easier to prepare for. It's also a good idea to do 70-291 and 70-293 around the same time; unfortunately I've done 2 exams since 70-291 so I'm finding that I'm having to do a bit of revision on the topics that I covered in 291.
I got a question on supernetting which through me off a bit as I hadn't come across it before, so you may want to research that too.
I'm currently studying for the 70-293 exam which covers a lot of the same material. If you're aiming for the MCSE, then you might as well learn subnetting properly now so that it will make 70-293 easier to prepare for. It's also a good idea to do 70-291 and 70-293 around the same time; unfortunately I've done 2 exams since 70-291 so I'm finding that I'm having to do a bit of revision on the topics that I covered in 291.
benchristian said:
You'll get no argument from me. Subnetting and supernetting are part of the skillset you'll need to do the job. An understanding of subnetting would be necessary in most cases.
The 70-291 book seems to assume that you already know it, and doesn't cover subnetting in any great detail. Considering that it's not a difficult concept to grasp, I have no idea why.
As far as the 70-293 exam, I don't recall a single subnetting or supernetting question, but it's been over a year since I took it. I agree that 70-291 and 70-293 should be taken fairly close together, since 70-293 reshashes a lot of the 70-291 material.
Again, it's been over a year. The exams may have changed significantly since.
Wishdiak
A+, Network+, Security+, MCSA: Security 2003
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timjcrist
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I have never taking this test so i cant help you much there, but in my studies i have found a good web page to help understand subnetting. Even if it is not covered on the exam very thoughly you still should have a solid understanding of subnetting. try this web page
70-297 has some subnetting, supernetting, and various addressing questions as well, including what subnets would fit a given scenario.
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I just passed 70-291 yesterday, and I definitely agree that you must know your subnetting. I had several questions about subnetting directly, as well as at least one relating to DHCP. To be honest, the sooner you learn subnetting by heart, the better off you'll be in the exams and in real life.
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Thanks guys for the replies.
I'm now sorted for subnetting and supernetting (CIDR). Been on the case and finally gotmy head around it.
Wildmagpie8 - congratulations on the pass, what score did you get? if you don't mind me asking.
And also, if you remember, what were the questions like?
were they something like this:
Net address 131.16.0.0
need 8 network and 5000 hosts, whats the subnet mask.
thanks.
I'm now sorted for subnetting and supernetting (CIDR). Been on the case and finally gotmy head around it.
Wildmagpie8 - congratulations on the pass, what score did you get? if you don't mind me asking.
And also, if you remember, what were the questions like?
were they something like this:
Net address 131.16.0.0
need 8 network and 5000 hosts, whats the subnet mask.
thanks.
I got 823 out of 1000, which is actually better than I did on the (supposedly less difficult) 70-290.
They questions were a lot like the sample test questions in the back of the MS Press blue book for the exam, and in the ExamForce Simulated Exams. They were pretty much all scenarios (mostly "You are the network administrator of xxx's network, and..."), and gave a background story as to why you're doing the subnetting it's asking you to do. As far as I remember, there weren't any questions that were written out as plainly as the example you gave.
In once particular case, the question gave the current setup for a company's network (with the existing ISP-provided IP address blocks for its subnets), and said that due to the increase in size of one of the subnets, an extra block of addresses was added. Basically, you had to figure out which address blocks were contiguous and could be combined into a single subnet, in order to support twice as many hosts as before. The question itself wasn't really too hard, it was just a different approach to the same type of problem.
I didn't notice any "gotcha" type questions, though for all I know there may be some in the question pool somewhere. As long as you're comfortable with subnetting and take your time (of which there is plenty) to read and understand each question, you should be fine.
They questions were a lot like the sample test questions in the back of the MS Press blue book for the exam, and in the ExamForce Simulated Exams. They were pretty much all scenarios (mostly "You are the network administrator of xxx's network, and..."), and gave a background story as to why you're doing the subnetting it's asking you to do. As far as I remember, there weren't any questions that were written out as plainly as the example you gave.
In once particular case, the question gave the current setup for a company's network (with the existing ISP-provided IP address blocks for its subnets), and said that due to the increase in size of one of the subnets, an extra block of addresses was added. Basically, you had to figure out which address blocks were contiguous and could be combined into a single subnet, in order to support twice as many hosts as before. The question itself wasn't really too hard, it was just a different approach to the same type of problem.
I didn't notice any "gotcha" type questions, though for all I know there may be some in the question pool somewhere. As long as you're comfortable with subnetting and take your time (of which there is plenty) to read and understand each question, you should be fine.
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I wouldn't be suprised if there were still questions like that in the 70-291 pool. I got one very much like that when I took it.Smooth23 said:
Wishdiak
A+, Network+, Security+, MCSA: Security 2003
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Hi all,
Well i passed with a 700, can't believe how close it was. Not a very good pass but a pass is a pass i guess.
Didn't get any subnetting questions. Loads of DNS and RRAS with some SUS.
Had three simulations on sus config, DNS Zone options and an MX record sim which threw me a little.
Thanks for all your the feedback.
Well i passed with a 700, can't believe how close it was. Not a very good pass but a pass is a pass i guess.
Didn't get any subnetting questions. Loads of DNS and RRAS with some SUS.
Had three simulations on sus config, DNS Zone options and an MX record sim which threw me a little.
Thanks for all your the feedback.
paulhthomas
Technical User
I sat the exam wednesday and got 828. Had the same sims as you and everybody else that takes the exam by the sound of it.
Conrats on the pass, as wildmagicpie8 said, a pass is a pass; that's all it shows up as on the transcript regardless of the mark.
Conrats on the pass, as wildmagicpie8 said, a pass is a pass; that's all it shows up as on the transcript regardless of the mark.
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