4.0.7 upgrade 2

[tlpeter]

i use iptel already for a while
it is great for ftp backup for 4610,5610,4621,5621 phones
also instead of tftp i use http
it can handle more and is a little bit faster (the reboot of the phone)


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[ProviderReborn]

tlpeter.

So how would your set up the http side of things?

 

[dizzyphil]

Well we finished a 66 Digital phone, 13 IP phone install last night. I used the 3CDaemon tftp server and had no issues at all. .7 seems to be rather smooth so far. (Knock on wood). I did talk to my last 3 installs this morning and so far so good.

Gibsonic, you need to get with Randy and get my number.

Diz

 

[tlpeter]

it is easy

instead of the folder tftp you put all the file in the folder http
that is all
maybe (i can't remember)you have to change the port to port 80 in the iptel application


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[intrigrant]

If you have Windows 2003 Server then the OS have a tftp server build in, free of charge and it runs as a service.

There are several 3rd party free TFTP servers for Windows out there, but why use a 3rd party product when you already have a free TFTP server on the install CD? Lets roll!

First, grab the Windows Server 2003 resource kit, and install it.

Now open a shell and go to your I386 directory (CD or distribution share - doesn't matter).

Run expand tftpd.ex_ %systemroot%\tftpd.exe. Note you could place the .exe elsewhere if you like.

Still in the shell, change to the Windows 2003 reskit install directory and run instsrv tftpd %systemroot%\tftpd.exe.

Create a TFTP root directory. It can be anywhere and named anything. For example, D:\TFTProot.

Run the following commands to create / modify the appropriate registry values

reg add hklm\system\currentcontrolset\services\tftpd /v DisplayName /t REG_SZ /d "TFTP Server"
reg add hklm\system\currentcontrolset\services\tftpd\Parameters
reg add hklm\system\currentcontrolset\services\tftpd\Parameters /v Directory /t REG_SZ /d d:\tftproot

And finally, do a net start tftpd

And that's it. Of course it would be a good idea to set the appropriate NTFS permissions on the TFTP root directory, and run the service with a low privileged account.

 

[ronromano]

Why is the tftp server built into manager not good enough? I did a 95 phone install on 4.0.7 and everything was fine. As far as I can tell, the tftp is only used for the IPO to get the files, then it handles the upgrades. I am at a loss as to why you might need a more powerful one. Can someone enlighten me?

 

[tlpeter]

a good reason is that i places the phones and give them there extension number and password and walk on to the next one
with about 50 phones to it is quicker to do it that way then putting down the phone and wiat till it is ready with downloading writing to flash ,downloading again and writing to flash again
you can do them al at once
place the phones and give them there number
walk back to the coffe machine get some coffe,walk to your laptop then you put in the files the phones need
then open monitor
then go to ip phone status
select all phone and reset them
then all the phone will download there files at the same time
manager can't do this

you could do it the normal way but it takes more time by waiting or walking back

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[ronromano]

you lost me tlpeter. I didn't understand a word of that.

 

[tlpeter]

maybe because i was just awake
i try again

i wait with upgrading the phones untill there are all placed
when they are all placed then i put the files on the fileserver and give all the phones a reset with monitor
this saves a lot of time
upgrading a phone takes a few minutes
but if you have a lot of phones then you lose a lot of time
time you can spend on other things
i hope it is more clear now


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[ronromano]

Ok better said, but I still don't see the benefit. When we do an install, the phones come up one at a time. As they come up, they upgrade. Don't see an issue. Am I missing something because the IPO appears to do the upgrades after it has gotten the files from the tftp server which takes just a few seconds. So why is the TFTP server important? N

Now if you were making the case that on a large IP phone install, where the ip phones get the files from the tftp server directly I would might agree but still don't think its a big deal.

Seems like a non issue. I do thank you for the explanation.

 

[intrigrant]

The tftp server in Manager can only handle five tftp requests at the same time.
For upgrading the DS stations this is not a disadvantage as the IP Office will load the firmware in memory and then distribute the software to the phones.
For a environment with more then five IP Hardphones it means that only five phones can be updated at the same time as each phone connects to the tftp server directly.

 

[aarenot]

Prior to going live, unbox IP phones, plug them in as you unbox them, unless you are pretty fast tbey should be just fine. Plug all the regular phones in at the jack, then cut over from the old system to the new system. Unless you are very fast cutting over, you should have no issues.

If a new not cut over, do your patching to make the jacks live. Put the phones on a cart, and go around, and plug them in. Unless you are really fast, it should not be an issue. If you are that fast, unbox the phones as you put them out.

I have never needed anything beyond the manager yet, but I guess, I have some production engineer in me so I just do it so it wont have an issue.