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Microsoft (GIANT Antispyware) Beta available 6
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gpalmer711
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Always first with the important news ![[bigsmile]](/data/assets/smilies/bigsmile.gif "[bigsmile] [bigsmile]")
Can't wait to see how it runs.
Greg Palmer
Freeware Utilities for Windows Administrators.
Can't wait to see how it runs.
Greg Palmer
Freeware Utilities for Windows Administrators.
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gpalmer711
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For those that are interested - substitute the word GIANT for Microsoft on the interface and you now have the new software.
I'm glad that they have not tinkered too much and got the product out there for testing.
It'll be interesting to see how they intergrate this into IE and the O/S by the time longhorn comes around.
Greg Palmer
Freeware Utilities for Windows Administrators.
is this any better than, let's say running spybot S&D and adaware/teatime (along with a firewall & virus scanner)?
i am not that familiar with Giant so i am looking to be educated. not doubting the product, but to change just for the sake of change isn't my cup of tea.
i am not that familiar with Giant so i am looking to be educated. not doubting the product, but to change just for the sake of change isn't my cup of tea.
gpalmer711
IS-IT--Management
In my opinion it is a better product that the two that you mentioned.
It is like comparing your average PC forum to Tek-Tips, they both do the same thing, Tek-Tips with that little bit more panache.
That being said it is still worth keeping the other two tools and running them occasionally. Adaware picks up loads more Cookies than the new product.
While it is free I would use it as an aditional scanning tool, then wait and see what MS has in store for it.
Greg Palmer
Freeware Utilities for Windows Administrators.
It is like comparing your average PC forum to Tek-Tips, they both do the same thing, Tek-Tips with that little bit more panache.
That being said it is still worth keeping the other two tools and running them occasionally. Adaware picks up loads more Cookies than the new product.
While it is free I would use it as an aditional scanning tool, then wait and see what MS has in store for it.
Greg Palmer
Freeware Utilities for Windows Administrators.
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I'm on the fence with this one...
I never used Giant but I don't know how I feel about the interface or the way this system is setup. I'm leaning towards agreeing with Linney on this one...
I like the integration of the spyware finder with other Windows systems, but I can easily see a lot of problems arising with users as they tweak this program, thinking it will only affect spyware on their system. And yes, I know, why make a seperate program when you can leverage one to do multiple jobs. It is just something that really needs to be explained to people prior to them playing to heavily with some of the functionality.
Also, I'm not a big fan of the "History" wipe feature. There's a long list of reasons why this could be a problem, at home and at work.
Lastly, Linney is right. It is a bit hyperactive about what it detects. If I wasn't paying attention the program could have taken out a chunk of my Oracle 9i local install.
But, these are the first moments of tinkering with this software and my first impressions of it.
If this software really moves me to I'll discuss it some more up here. But like everyone else, I am interested to see how MS will integrate this with its current systems.
Oh...and Greg, nice verbage!
I never used Giant but I don't know how I feel about the interface or the way this system is setup. I'm leaning towards agreeing with Linney on this one...
I like the integration of the spyware finder with other Windows systems, but I can easily see a lot of problems arising with users as they tweak this program, thinking it will only affect spyware on their system. And yes, I know, why make a seperate program when you can leverage one to do multiple jobs. It is just something that really needs to be explained to people prior to them playing to heavily with some of the functionality.
Also, I'm not a big fan of the "History" wipe feature. There's a long list of reasons why this could be a problem, at home and at work.
Lastly, Linney is right. It is a bit hyperactive about what it detects. If I wasn't paying attention the program could have taken out a chunk of my Oracle 9i local install.
But, these are the first moments of tinkering with this software and my first impressions of it.
If this software really moves me to I'll discuss it some more up here. But like everyone else, I am interested to see how MS will integrate this with its current systems.
Oh...and Greg, nice verbage!
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Next up this month:
The "Malicious software removal" tool will be available January 11, 2004.
"Microsoft also announced that starting on Jan. 11, it will begin providing tools to remove malicious software to customers running Windows 2000 and later versions.
Microsoft said the virus-removal program will not prevent computer infections and was never intended to replace the need for traditional antivirus software, such as flagship products from McAfee Inc. or Symantec Corp.
But a senior Microsoft executive confirmed the company's plans to sell its own antivirus software, which would compete against programs from McAfee, Symantec and others."
The "Malicious software removal" tool will be available January 11, 2004.
"Microsoft also announced that starting on Jan. 11, it will begin providing tools to remove malicious software to customers running Windows 2000 and later versions.
Microsoft said the virus-removal program will not prevent computer infections and was never intended to replace the need for traditional antivirus software, such as flagship products from McAfee Inc. or Symantec Corp.
But a senior Microsoft executive confirmed the company's plans to sell its own antivirus software, which would compete against programs from McAfee, Symantec and others."
gpalmer711
IS-IT--Management
Never mind MS in cort again - I'll have you down there quick smart
A deliberate misspelling and mispronunciation of verbiage that assimilates it to the word `garbage'
Greg Palmer
Freeware Utilities for Windows Administrators.
the "Giant" version excels at detecting polymorphic malware such as tv media and vx2 and stopping it cold, from my trials. it does seem to leave some of the trace files behind, but those are easily detected and removed with ad-aware.
only thing i really didnt like is the cascade of "bulls-eyes" in the system tray when realtime protection is enabled, which lock the system temporarily. you can wave the mouse pointer over the tray and most of them disappear. strange...
it is the first and only scanner I have used that can handle the tough ones so well (instead of getting into ad-aware's "couldnt remove 'X.' want to fix at next startup?" loop). normally i had to use a process blocker to stop and remove the polymorphs, but there was always that one deep-ferreted mystery DLL file that made it all come back. I did notice that when removing the DLLs, the giant version "checks for additional integration" of the dll which I thought was really nice.
the giant version's interface is a bit clumsy. should be more streamlined. havent tried MS's version yet. just my 2 cents.
will report back once i get a chance to put the MS version on one of our ever-infected workstations (some have had over 200+ items detected by ad-aware) to see how it compares. Thanks.
only thing i really didnt like is the cascade of "bulls-eyes" in the system tray when realtime protection is enabled, which lock the system temporarily. you can wave the mouse pointer over the tray and most of them disappear. strange...
it is the first and only scanner I have used that can handle the tough ones so well (instead of getting into ad-aware's "couldnt remove 'X.' want to fix at next startup?" loop). normally i had to use a process blocker to stop and remove the polymorphs, but there was always that one deep-ferreted mystery DLL file that made it all come back. I did notice that when removing the DLLs, the giant version "checks for additional integration" of the dll which I thought was really nice.
the giant version's interface is a bit clumsy. should be more streamlined. havent tried MS's version yet. just my 2 cents.
will report back once i get a chance to put the MS version on one of our ever-infected workstations (some have had over 200+ items detected by ad-aware) to see how it compares. Thanks.
I Noted the Microsoft ver. says it is for 2000, XP 2003 no mention of win98 or Me. Giant would run on 98 and Me, I have a Me on the binch now will give it a spin. I have also had some problems with Giant interfering with outher programes runing yesterday was doing a one step on Norton 2004 System works and NDD was trying to run it keep restarting when I closed Giant NDD compled ok.
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Make sense I suppose, MS doesn't offer any support for those OS' as is. Just another way to force people into a situation where upgrading is advantageous...
Well Greg, I have two responses...
1. Tek-Tips needs spellchecker (not that, that would have helped me
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2. If we settle out of court I'll offer two months of Bill's services as compensation!
Well Greg, I have two responses...
1. Tek-Tips needs spellchecker (not that, that would have helped me
)2. If we settle out of court I'll offer two months of Bill's services as compensation!
gpalmer711
IS-IT--Management
If we settle out of court I'll offer two months of Bill's services as compensation!{/quote]
You've got a deal
I agree with the spell checker suggestion. I used to have a IE plugin that spell checked any textbox on a Web Page. It worked really well but I forget where I got it from.
Greg Palmer
Freeware Utilities for Windows Administrators.
gpalmer711
IS-IT--Management
Couple of questions before we settle.
Who's paying for Bill's flights to the UK?
Can I sub-contract him out?
Does he Babysit? Hehehe
Greg Palmer
Freeware Utilities for Windows Administrators.
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