Hello All,
 Hope everyone here is in good spirits,

I am running HP3000, MPE/ix(5.X) and using Reflection 5.1
to connecty from my windows network through a serial port.
I am having problem connecting to my HP3000.

The only reason I could think of is that, I shifted my hp3000 for the reason of "ISABEL" to a higer place. For which I disconnected the network and connected it back,
but since then I am unable to connect..

can any one know help on this..

I hope some answers from TAW, MATT and others as usual and Thanks guys in advance...

My first thought is a hardware problem.  Are you using the exact same cables that you were using before moving the hp3000?

The hp3000 is running normally from the console, you just can't connect from the windows machines, right?

That is correct..
Hp3000 is running normal from the console..

I obly cant conncet thru the serial port...from windows

Did you temporarily move the system to higher ground and now it's back exactly where it was before?  Are you positive it's back on the same segment (i.e. is the gateway node address the same)?

Have you tried pinging the gateway from the HP?  Are your DTCs configured with IP addresses, and, if so, can you ping them?

Glenn

I have never did ping to hp3000 before..
I tried this time pinging using the host name. but it said
"unknown host"..

I dont know how to see the ipaddress for the host in hp3000 from the console.

Right my consloe looks good by showing me operator.sys prompt..

any advice?

From the MPE/iX: prompt on the console:

run ping.net.sys

follow the prompts and enter the IP address of your default gateway, use any reasonable packet length, and try sending 3 packets.

That will confirm that your HP is capable of talking to the network.

(BTW - the IP address of the HP host (and its default gateway) is found in the NMCONFIG file which is accessed from NMMGR.PUB.SYS.)

Glenn

Glenn,
 that sounded like a lot of technical stuff to me in the beginning ..but i managed to do that..
Here is the result of i tried..

I did a run ping.net.sys from operator.sys prompt and it gave me no prompt, but a message "END of PROGRAM"
if the ping.net.sys gave me a prompt I would have tried to enter my windows network default gateway IP address in there(?)(correct me if i am wrong..)

and I tried to PRINT NMCONFIG.pub.sys and most of the contents looked very non understanbable to me.

Nickel -

Sounds to me like you weren't logged in as MANAGER.SYS.

As I said in my prior e-mail, you have to use NMMGR.PUB.SYS to change/view the NMCONFIG file.

Glenn

Glenn Thanks,
 I did log on as manager.sys this time and ran ping.net.sys.
I got a message saying "cannot contact local ICMP server. Shutting down.."

I am doing it correct

Thanks

I am sorry .. I meant to ask Am I doing it correct??

Nickel -

From the manual at: http://docs.hp.com/cgi-bin/doc3k/B369579...

MESSAGE           Cannot contact local ICMP Server. Shutting down...

CAUSE             PING/XL cannot contact the above mentioned local ICMP Server.

ACTION            Check if the Transport is active.  If not, start the transport.

Do a NETCONTROL STATUS and an NSCONTROL STATUS to be sure your network transport has been started.

Glenn

I get,
" TRANSPORT NOT ACTIVE(NETXPORTWARN0001)
Encountered one or more warnings while processing command"
when I did Netcontrol status.


And I get,
"NO NETWORK SERVICES ARE CURRENTLT ACTIVE " message when i did a nscontrol status.


Now is there a way to turn this thing on?
surely I dont know that..

Update:

I did find NMMGR.PUB.SYS open me a screen for asking, NS,IBM or anyother network.

I selected NS,
and now I am at the guided or unguided setup.

I chose guided..and trying to figure out what to do..

Nickle,
Doesn't sound like your network is started.  Do you know how to do that?  Let me know if you need help.

Thx
TAW

To start the NETWORK, enter these commands signed on as MANAGER.SYS (hopefully your LAN network is named LAN1, you can find that out using NMMGR but try this first).

NETCONTROL NET=LAN1;START
NETCONTROL START;NET=LOOP
NSCONTROL START
NSCONTROL SERVER=VTSERVER,75

Hey Taw , Good to see u..

I did a,
NETCONTROL NET=LAN1;START
and I got
Configuration file not valid (NETXPORTERR 4061)
...
Do I have to create a new configuration file?
How do I do that?

Nickel,
Do A LISTF NMCONFIG.PUB from MANAGER.SYS and post the results (as below).

:LISTF NMCONFIG.PUB,3
********************
FILE: NMCONFIG.PUB.SYS             

FILE CODE : 1192                FOPTIONS: ASCII,FIXED,NOCCTL,STD
BLK FACTOR: 240                 CREATOR : **                   
REC SIZE: 32(BYTES)             LOCKWORD: **                   
BLK SIZE: 7680(BYTES)           SECURITY--READ    : ANY        
EXT SIZE: 2430(SECT)                      WRITE   : ANY        
NUM REC: 24540                            APPEND  : ANY        
NUM SEC: 3392                             LOCK    : ANY        
NUM EXT: 1                                EXECUTE : ANY        
MAX REC: 153600                         **SECURITY IS ON       
MAX EXT: 8                      FLAGS   : NO ACCESSORS         
NUM LABELS: 0                   CREATED : TUE, AUG 14, 2001, 11:15 AM
MAX LABELS: 0                   MODIFIED: TUE, JUL 29, 2003, 11:35 AM
DISC DEV #: 5                   ACCESSED: THU, SEP 25, 2003,  7:33 AM
SEC OFFSET: 0                   LABEL ADDR: **                 
VOLCLASS  : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:DISC

:LISTF NMCONFIG.PUB,3
********************
FILE: NMCONFIG.PUB.SYS             

FILE CODE : 1192                FOPTIONS: ASCII,FIXED,NOCCTL,STD
BLK FACTOR: 240                 CREATOR : **                   
REC SIZE: 32(BYTES)             LOCKWORD: **                   
BLK SIZE: 7680(BYTES)           SECURITY--READ    : ANY        
EXT SIZE: 420(SECT)                      WRITE   : ANY        
NUM REC: 1471                            APPEND  : ANY        
NUM SEC: 512                             LOCK    : ANY        
NUM EXT: 2                                EXECUTE : ANY        
MAX REC: 25600                         **SECURITY IS ON       
MAX EXT: 8                      FLAGS   : NO ACCESSORS         
NUM LABELS: 0                   CREATED : TUE, OCT 14, 1997, 2:50 PM
MAX LABELS: 0                   MODIFIED: THU, SEP 25, 2003, 9:12 AM
DISC DEV #: 1                   ACCESSED: THU, SEP 25, 2003,  9:12 AM
SEC OFFSET: 0                   LABEL ADDR: **                 
VOLCLASS  : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:MEMBER1

I do not understand why it shows, modified as
SEP 25 2003 (current date)..

Because you got into NMMGR, hopefully nothing was modified.

You need to get back into NMMGR and find the LAN Network interface.  Follow these instructions for NMMGR.

Get into NMMGR

Hit F1 to Open Config (note function keys), which brings up the Main screen.  

Hit F2 NS, which brings up the "NS Configuration Screen".

Hit F1, which brings up the "Guided Configuration Screen".

Hit F5, which will list all your configured networks.

After that screen is displayed, F8 out of NMMGR.

Let me know the name and type of each configured network.

Nickel -

Probably because you opened it and made a change (inadvertently?) with NMMGR. You may want to try to use the backup configuration file by renaming NMCONFIG to something else and then copying NMCBACK.PUB.SYS to NMCONFIG.PUB.SYS (assuming you're using the default names).  Alternately, you can go back into NMMGR and try to VALIDATE your configuration (look under the UTILITY menu). You might also want to consider Printing your configuration in case something happens to it or you want to browse it via hardcopy instead of online.

Our startup is a bit different than TAW's:

NETCONTROL NET=LOOP;START
NETCONTROL NET=LAN;START
NSCONTROL START

Replace "LAN" with the Network Interface name you see in NMMGR (in TAW's case, it is LAN1; yours may be different).

Glenn

It shows,

LAN    LAN        LANNI LAN       LANNI LAN
LOOP   LOOP

out of which
the LANNI LAN LANNI LAN are mistakenly created by me, i think, I beleive that should not harm anything??
Or otherwise I need advice to takethem out?
Thanks a lot..

Try the instructions from Glenn (below), your Network Interface for the Local Area Network is LAN, instread of LAN1 like mine.

NETCONTROL NET=LOOP;START
NETCONTROL NET=LAN;START
NSCONTROL START

Nickel,
Those extra interfaces shouldn't hurt anything.  Let's get your LAN Network Interface started, then we'll setup your system so the LAN Network Interface starts when it boots, and then we'll clean up the NMCONFIG file.

TAW

Glenn,
  I rename NMCBACK.PUB to NMCONFIG.PUB and opened it thru NMMGR, and found the LIST NETWORK had no connections listed in there. It was empty. Should I go back to my old file?
or IS IT EASY TO CREATE A NEW CONFIGURATION than FIXING MY OLD ONE???

I think I am stuck..

Nickel,
Before you renamaed NMCBACK to NMCONFIG, did you try NSCONTROL START & NETCONTROL START commands for LAN?

Yes I tried,
NSCONTROL START & NETCONTROL START and it returned me an error message, That is when I got ,
Configuration file not valid (NETXPORTERR 4061)
 

Do you have a recent backup to restore NMCONFIG.PUB.SYS?

I renamed the old file, I disconnected everything again and connected back again, and I am able to Talk to it from Windows...

I seriously Think it is a cable/connection problem...
THANKS ALL for all your help to solve this..
it feels like I learned a lot from you experts..
Thanks once again

Yes Glenn , I have to think about taking a back up of NMCONFIG.PUB.SYS now..

Thanks Very much