anyone here?? anyone here?? djam (TechnicalUser) (OP) 2 Feb 03 21:41 I'm going to be starting a eiffel project and was wondering if anyone was going to be here if I need some references??? "there is lots of time to sleep when your dead" RE: anyone here?? DonQuichote (Programmer) 4 Feb 03 08:32 I'm here! Alas I was interested once in Eiffel because it has a nice object model. I really miss parameterclasses in other languages.I downloaded an eiffel version (.NET) that was only valid for one month and even the most simple example would probably have taken me 3 months to understand because there was no guidance of where to start.You can't learn to swim by just falling into the ocean...Best regards RE: anyone here?? canadee (Programmer) 13 Jul 03 14:05 I'll give any help I can. I use Eiffel, though I am not an expert. But I am interested in increasing it's use. I use the Visual Eiffel tool. because I can't afford the ISE tool. The documentation certainly leaves a little to be desired, but persevere and you will find it has most of what you need. There is also a very good news-group with active participation from Object-Tools.One reason for my choosing Eiffel is the number of books available, and they keep being published. There are also several good sites on the web.