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GlenJohnson (MIS) (OP)
11 Dec 02 13:27
I know there is a utility for setting up tcp/ip for w3.x, but I can't find it.  Had it last year, but it never worked.  Anybody have any ideas? Thanks.

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Helpful Member!  GlenJohnson (MIS) (OP)
12 Dec 02 13:39
Found it.  
http://www.YALE.EDU/PCLT/WINWORLD/WFWG311.HTM

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edfair (TechnicalUser)
12 Dec 02 16:35
I think there was also a software package "Chameleon" but I can't find a copy I used to have to verify it.

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GlenJohnson (MIS) (OP)
12 Dec 02 16:42
Thanks, I'll do some research into that also.

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ANFPS26 (TechnicalUser)
12 Dec 02 16:46
Here it is:

http://www.k2tech.com/download/download_frame.html

info:

http://users.visi.net/technotes/win31/chameleon.html

Jim

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ANFPS26 (TechnicalUser)
12 Dec 02 16:48
Sorry, that was for Unix.

Jim

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CitrixEngineer (TechnicalUser)
13 Dec 02 3:55
It's also here
http://tiimibbs.icl.fi/Internet/NETDRV.HTM

tcpip32b.exe (contained in tcpip32b.zip on this site) is the file you want NOT tcpip32a.

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Caluser (TechnicalUser)
26 Dec 02 16:00
If its win 3.1 and not windows for workgroups you'll need the MS Dos network client. Go over to wown.com and you can get it along with good tutorials on how to set it up. They also have good tutorials on setting up wfw with tcp/ip and download links. Good luck.
GlenJohnson (MIS) (OP)
19 Feb 03 15:08
I appreciate all the help.  We've done this succesfully with two different nics, but on re-boot hung on a grey screen after, so it never loaded.  I was able to boot with no nic, but had all kinds of error messages in dos.  Had it detect the new nic after I installed it, and when I did a re-boot, now it hangs on a windows start-up screen.  I can't ping it, but the nic shows activity.  I've placed a hosts and lmhosts files on it, and was able to install dns and the domain.  I don't understand the hang-up problem.  Has anybody ever seen this before?  Thanks.

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GlenJohnson (MIS) (OP)
21 Feb 03 11:20
Here's what I've done.
Wiped out the hard drive.
Removed the nic.
Installed dos 6.22
Installed Windows for Workgroup
Re-booted with no problem, Windows loaded in seconds.
Installed the latest version of TCP/IP for Windows for Workgroups.
Turned off the machine, installed the nic.
Had the machine detect the nic, it found it with no problems.
Installed an IP address and subnet mask.  Did not use a wins server or dns, just a hosts and lmhosts file.
Re-booted, the machine hangs on a grey screen.
If I install Windows for Workgroups with the nic in there, it hangs on boot-up, never gets to the grey screen.
I've used 2 seperate pc's, 3 seperate nics, and 2 different sets of install disks, always with the same results.  
Is there something simple I'm missing?  Thanks.

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CitrixEngineer (TechnicalUser)
21 Feb 03 13:48
Looks like an IRQ or other resource conflict between the NIC and something else. Is the NIC configurable, or do you have a sound card you can remove?

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GlenJohnson (MIS) (OP)
21 Feb 03 14:23
I think I just figured it out.   This early protocol is class b broadcasts which aren't routeable, and  we're using a router.  Gonna dig up a crossover cable, hook it up to my laptop and see if I can ping the laptop.  The next thing I need to remember is what I need on the server to allow class b's to be routable.  I'm thinking a proxy server or something like that, just don't remember off the top of my head.  Thanks for the help.  I'll let you know if I'm right.

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ANFPS26 (TechnicalUser)
21 Feb 03 14:57
I remember when I set this up sometime back for wfw311. If I installed the network when I installed wfw311, it would hang, but if I selected no network and then added it after I was in windows then it worked. I would add the Microsoft client, add the adapter and point it to the NIC driver disk in the A drive. Then I would add TCP\IP and select the automatic setting and not try to put in a manual IP address. It saw my router just fine and set everything up automatically. Lastly I selected TCP\IP as my default protocol.
Also, after this, on boot, it is slow to get back to windows(wait on it). It will ask for a user name and password if this is enabled. you can disable that in the network options in control panel.

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GlenJohnson (MIS) (OP)
21 Feb 03 15:06
I've gotten that far.  Sounds like you were using dhcp.  We're not.  I can ping locally with no problem, just can't ping anything outside the pc.  

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ANFPS26 (TechnicalUser)
21 Feb 03 15:26
I was writing that from memory, but I guess I was using dhcp. I just remembered the hanging problem, but sounds like your problem is different. I also remember having problems with convetional memory. The NIC used about 45KB and getting eveything to load high in upper memory was a pain.  I had to re-arrange the order of things in Config.sys and Autoexec.bat. Smartdrive, MSCDEX, and the NIC eats up conventional memory.

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GlenJohnson (MIS) (OP)
21 Feb 03 15:47
What makes me think it's a broadcast problem is it can ping itself all day long.  I've set this up on 2 pc's and used 3 different nics.  All the settings look perfect, and an ipconfig /all and route print are perfect.  I need to pull out my books at home and find out how to make these broadcasts routable.  I know there is a way, just can't remember it.  

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ANFPS26 (TechnicalUser)
21 Feb 03 15:56
Wish I could help. Good luck!

Jim

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GlenJohnson (MIS) (OP)
21 Feb 03 16:01
Thanks, I posted this thread in the W2K server forum for more help.  Doing all kind of searches for routing packets.  Thanks again.

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CitrixEngineer (TechnicalUser)
21 Feb 03 18:22
I think you mean (NetBIOS) B-node, not class B (as in subnet), which would have no bearing on the fact that it hangs.

If you load the DOS IP stack, can you get a ping?

ANFPS26 made some good points.

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GlenJohnson (MIS) (OP)
23 Feb 03 16:08
You're correct, had a brief brain dump.  I can ping pc by name and number, but nobody else.  I got it past hanging by  dumping all but tcp/ip.  It loads just fine, but won't ping anybody.  Thanks.

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GlenJohnson (MIS) (OP)
25 Feb 03 16:44
I can't believe how simple the solution was.  I've tried 3 different nics.  I decided to test the one I had and installed it in mine.  Took my cheapy aopen nic, got some drivers and had tcp/ip installed in a matter of minutes.  Not only can I see all my servers, a lindows box, I can even ping google.com.  Thanks for the help.  Learned a heck of a lot.

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ANFPS26 (TechnicalUser)
25 Feb 03 17:11
Glad you got it going!  

Jim

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 problem is fixed and what fixed it!!

GlenJohnson (MIS) (OP)
26 Feb 03 9:20
Thanks.  Lot of frustration, lots of joy.  

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gvidos (Programmer)
3 Mar 04 6:18
Hello,
I seem to have a similar problem.I've managed to setup Microsoft's network client in MSDOS in my old 80286 and everything worked all right with TCP/IP on it.
Now I want to have network access inside windows for workgroups 3.10 (not 3.11) that can be run on a 80286 machine. I mean I want to browse the internet inside windows. Is it possible to setup my IP address,Gateway,DHCP,etc from DOS and make those setting visible to Windows? I've read somewhere else something about winpkt driver that uses DOS tsr to give access to the NIC from inside Windows.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Come on you guru guys out there,please help me!

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