Does XP have IIS or PWS?

Does anybody know if XP Home Edition has IIS or PWS?

I'm not sure... XP Prof has MSIIS...

Although I don't personally have it, you can COUNT on it having some form of web server in both the personal and professional editions.

Microsoft states the Home edition cannot run a PWS. See the last FAQ on: http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWSXP/home/using/howto/gettingstarted/guide/setupqanda.asp

Jon Hawkins

Well hush my mouth and call me surprised.

Can't help but to wonder why, but I guess that'll teach me.  

That makes up my mind to NOT "down-grade" to Win XP Home Edition. If I want to use ASP, I can't do it on Win XP Home. That just stinks.

Great going Microsoft! Keep up the lousy work and I might just adopt Linux. XP stinks.

Einstein47
(The greatest trick the devil ever did was to convice the world he didn't exists.)

Not true, my friend.  Everyone I've talked to, while no one really likes the fact that you have to "activate" the software, and obviously, this little thing doesn't quite make sense to me either...   everyone says it's the most stable, user-friendly, well thought out version of Windows yet.

Besides, you can get the pro edition of it for about $100 dollars more.

Eh... whatever.  Win2k is great, though.   

I am running XP pro, and although it takes a little getting used to (i used to run 2k) it's well worth the upgrade.
It is more stable than 2k and faster generally!

highly recommended!!!!

and althiugh i never thouight i'd say it, well done MS!

Just Convert from the Dark Side to JSP's and Suns Platform its just as good and OS independent (works on XP to)


LK--<

Are there any programs that will let me run asp on xp home?

You don't need to buy Win XP professional to have PWS.
I was actually able to install Web server extensions on Windows XP home edition by installing IIS components from NT 5.0 beta 2 version. Now, I have a mix of files that belong to both versions. When I checked the about box for PWS, I saw version 5.1 for PWS. Everything, works OK though. It even has FTP support like all real IIS' do.
I wonder if you can do the same thing using Win 2K option pack for these purposes

can anyone tell me how to activate pws on xp pro or where i can find a tutorial on working with pws on xp?

Why was it so hard for me to find IIS in XP?  I couldn't find the darn thing anywhere in the startmenu?  what's up Microsoft?  i had to go to the run command and type in "Inetmgr" manually.  and not just that, i couldn't find netmeeting either, had to type it too. gzzz.  

OK, Friendly Advice, how do you install IIS components from NT 5.0 beta 2 version? Add remove programs windows components? Is there a setup on the cd? I need info...

antman....

Start -> All Programs -> Administrative Tools -> Internet Information Services.

Or if you don't have admin tools on your startmenu

Start -> Control Pannel -> Administrative Tools -> Internet Information Services.

The same place as IIS5(2k/xp) always has been, its only IIS4 (NT4) where it has its own entry in the start menu.

Um.. how do you install it when you have winxp HE as the os that is? I thought that was understood since that is this topic's subject...

nickhills...

sorry, I missed your "antman...."

I don't have NT 5 beta 2 but do have w2k pro and can't get any of the setups to work on xp home. How oh how does one get nt5 beta v2 and then install such as Friendly Advice states?

Is there an alternative web server application for win xp HE? I really only need php and mysql support and don't know about anything else than pws and iis for a windows box.

jackals...

i'd be very concerend about running a mish-mash of files from different os's to get IIS running!!!

if you only want PHP, and MYSQL you could try apache, but if it comes to it you can still run Chilli ASP!
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/windows.html

nickhills...

Thanks. I was checking out apache's site today. I'll probably give it a whirl but do want to do a little asp now and then probably. Does chiliasp run on apache?

jackals...

yep

Ripped From Chili!Soft.com:........

"Sun™ Chili!Soft ASP is a comprehensive software solution for deploying Web sites and applications based on Active Server Pages (ASP or .asp) using the Apache, iPlanet or Zeus Web servers running on a variety of platforms. "

http://www.chilisoft.com/chiliasp/default.asp?target=windows

Chili!Soft does work really well on Apache - not on the newest release though. Also Chili!Soft does not state support for WinXP - anyone tried it at all? I'd be interested to know if it works...

I have just got this working for my project at University.  I have XP Home edition and was at a loss about how I was going to do my project but I have managed to get Chillisoft working for my ASP pages with an Apache server.

When installing ChillisoftASP, install it as an NT program, after it has installed you can save your ASP pages to the htdocs folder of Apache and run your pages as normal.  Check them in your browser at http://localhost/<;nameofASPpage>

So many windows xp forum sites.  Windows xp home ed is cool for starters. But for developers Linux is the best.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q304197

4guysfromrolla posted this FAQ this week on installing PWS on XP.  enjoy.

http://www.aspfaqs.com/aspfaqs/ShowFAQ.asp?FAQID=134

I tried ChilisoftASP on windows XP Home Edition, however the current version will *NOT* install. It presents a popup that states that this version will only run on NT & Win2000. If anyone has managed to get around this I'd love to know how!

I've got apache 2.0 beta and it works really well for plain old html pages, but I desparately need ODBC & ASP support. There are a few pages out there that give a workaround for an IIS installation but you will require a win2k cd, and frankly if you've got that you'll probably use that for development. I've spent a few hours searching for a solution and have come to the conclusion that it can't be done. <insert rant about microsoft here>

Graham


>When installing ChillisoftASP, install it as an NT
>program, after it has installed you can save your ASP
>pages to the htdocs folder of Apache and run your pages as
>normal.  Check them in your browser at
>http://localhost/<;;nameofASPpage>

Hi, I'm having the same problem of unable to use PWS or IIS on Windows XP Home Edition. What if i installed Windows 2000 on the second partition of my disk drive d:, would that effect my windows xp home edition on drive c:.

i cant see any reason it should, the two OS's should happily sit side by side with no interaction between them, however it would be easier to install a third party WWW server, than tempt fate by running two Microsoft OS's!

;)

I had an email from one of Chili!s techies, he was very helpful and said I should run the install in 'Compatibility Mode' (I must admit having not understood an earlier post about this)

Just right click on the install icon, and select properties. There is a shiny new windowsXP tab that says 'compatibility' and select windows NT.

Voila! Runs like a dream. I've tried out the ODBC support and it works really well. As far as I can see there is no other option short of installing XP Pro or 2K.


Graham.

I was having a similar problem with a scanner after upgrading to XP. But the guys and girlies at Mustek came up with a simple but novel solution.
Basically, change the registry to fool Windows into thinking it's another older version while installing, then change it back again.
Seemed to work fine for that and I thought it might work to let you instal PWS under XPHome.

The page is here, but the techie stuff is below.
http://www.mustek-europe.com/html/faq/faq_english_XP.html

1. Start Regedit        

2.in  HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\Current Version
   rename the key "ProductName"
   from "Microsoft Windows XP"
   in "Microsoft Windows 2000"

3. install the  Mustekdriver for Windows 2000 (PWS to you)

4. Undo the changes in the Registry.

FYI :

http://www.developersdex.com/asp/message.asp?p=577&ID=%3C3c3c9b9d%2E518663173%40news%3E

So has anyone managed to get Chilisoft working with Apache 2.0.35?

And if so, how?

thanks.

Can you get chilisoft working on a normal PC running XP home, without any apache server etc just chilisoft.

My problem is that I'm using Visual Studio.NET, and I can't do ASP projects. I can get an ASP page fine, but unless I can do a project I'm out of luck! In order to do a project I must have IIS5.1... The catch??

I'm using a XP Home edition computer and therefore I CANNOT use 5.1 which is a load of bull. Without it there's not way I can get .NET to realize my computer is the "localhost". I had Zope, and Apache on my computer, but in this instance IIS is a MUST. Any ideas?

I have been running XP home edition for about a week, and discovered the problems everyone else seems to be having with PWS and IIS.

I have now installed Apache Web server v1.3.24, which is running quite happily (on localhost), however, when i downloaded chilisoft asp, it only appears to support Apache Web server v1.3.22 and as a result (I am guessing) can't find the installed web server.

I haven't beem able to find anywhere where I can either obtain version  v1.3.22 of Apache, or a version of Chilisoft asp which will work with Apache v1.3.24.

Has anyone encountered any problems like this.

Any suggestions much appreciated.

Ok, now i'd just like to say that i have not tried this, and therefor am not certain that this will work (I've got XP Pro) but i have a suspicion that this 'Could' work (its the same prinicple that you have to use when uninstalling that darn windows messenger!!! ;o)

Apparently IIS is on the XP Home disc, however when you go to Add/Update components its not available so....

goto c:\windows\inf and open sysoc.inf in notepad

look for a line that says something like...
iis=iis.dll,OcEntry,iis.inf,hide,7

and remove the word 'hide', the line should now look like this....
iis=iis.dll,OcEntry,iis.inf,,7

save the file, reboot for good luck, then go to add/remove windows components, and if i'm right IIS should be in the list, and you can install it!!

Apparently there is no difference between the XP Home / XP Pro cd, the same software is on both, its just a case of tweaking files and/or the registry to get home to run like pro.

Like i said, i have no idea if this will work, it is just a guess, let me know how you get on!

NickHills

That was (almost) a brilliant solution..

I was a little uncertain about this, as my XP Home is an OEM version, but, sure enough they are there.. editing this file does cause the PWS / IIS components to be displayed in the add remove windows components dialog.. HOWEVER, they just can't be selected.. clicking in the tick box has no effect..

However, now that I know that you can play around with these settings in this way, maybe there is something else that needs tweaking..

I will have a bit of a dig around and see if I can come up with anything..

Thanks for that.. very useful.

The Windows XP Professional Edition only has IIS 5.0...the installation is same as win 2000 Prof

       I bought a computer with XP Home pre-loaded. I didn't think much of it until a few weeks ago I wanted to start to learn ASP (I can already program VB) and after looking into it, I'm finding the same problem. So far i think the idea of using the second partitioned disk to run a www server is a good idea. I find it funny how the XP home and Pro disks are the same! Would changing the specified file comprimise the OS's security or stability at all?

       I would like a bit more info on running a second OS on my partitioned disk if anyone can help. What would be a good (cheap) www server OS to use? (That could run ASP) Thanks people!

Glynton.

I've found this... I'd like some opinions before I implement this though. ......

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To quote http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3c3c9b9d.518663173%40news:


"General HOWTO for running IIS in Windows XP Home Edition.
by Richard Sandoz - Certified Java Programmer

(1) locate and edit the file C:\WINDOWS\INF\SYSOC.INF

(2) locate a section called [Components]

(3) find a line like this:
iis=iis.dll,OcEntry,iis.inf,hide,7

(4) change it to this (the iis cab in the i386 xp home folder looks to be nothing) iis=iis2.dll,OcEntry,iis2.inf,,7

(some sort of ms caching thing keeps sticking back iis.dll when I try to nuke it. quickly renaming and making hidden dir called iis.dll seems to thwart, but not worth it, so iis2.dll is good enough)

(5) I grabbed the iis.dl_ and iis.in_ from win2k advanced server cd.

I would guess similar techniques would work from W98, FP, etc. Use "EXPAND IIS.DL_ IIS2.DLL" from a command prompt Same for IIS2.INF, place IIS2.INF in C:\WINDOWS\INF and IIS2.DLL in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SETUP

(6) Now when I did "add windows programs" from the control panel's add new programs, I had IIS options and I could even check em off. yippee - could not check em off from my xppro cd :(((

I just went with the defaulted ones though (all i needed was iis web server)

(7) It will prompt you for files. Get em from MS XP Home CDs, Adv Server CDs, C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\INETSRV, C:\WINDOWS\I386, etc. (It will tell you the file it needs, you just need to have a searcher going, probably the CDs will have all you need)

(8) You can get to your IIS from Control Panel's Administrative Programs. I stuck in an index.html file and reconfigure IIS to work like this.
No go :(((
I right clicked on my inetpub folder and did something with shared folders.
No go :(((
I looked at the event viewer and saw the error of my ways. Go to IIS and goto Directory Security tab and click Edit button and Browse for the user setup on my laptop.

(9) Yippee, hello world from http://localhost

I won't support this solution unless paid to. I am an out of work developer looking for work.

I bought a Toshiba 5005 laptop which came with XP home. I then bought Win XP Professional. I have bunches of CDs from when I was a MSDN subscriber. From a general search on the internet I found contradictions.

Microsoft says you need professional XP to do IIS period. q310090 was yanked from their site which had the "workaround" for this.

When I tried to setup XP upgrade to pro, my laptop rebooted and hung on an xp logo with an animated graphic. I have verified this to be the case with others as well. Upgrading to xp pro isn't an option for this laptop."

--------------------------

Glynton

I was wondering if there is an easy way to just test out my ASP pages without actually having a server.....I have XP home edition and have a sever at another location but I want to be able to work on my ASP pages from home.

Being that not everyone has access to Win2k, including myself, I am currently trying to obtain all the files.  I want to zip them all together and put that zip file with instructions on the web.  Legality, morality, et al...  I, of course will never (really) do this.  I would love to have someone who is willing to not do this with me.  Specifically someone who has access to all the Windows 2k files.

Let's save a lot of people time on this workaround.

Tyler

Took a class on ASP and Local Server last year.
Just got XP.....
oh well.
Question - what are the 'Windows 2k' files that are being referred to.

Also - What is Apache (in brief)? Is it shareware, open source, shareware?
Thanks

If you are just looking for a PWS to test your ASP pages,
then you should try GoAhead web server.  It is a free
open source web server project that is scalable to run
on most any system (including WinXP home) and is targeted
for distribution to hand held devices.

http://www.goahead.com/webserver/webserver.htm

I've tried the GoAhead webserver, and it only supports server side javascript, not VBScript, (And I have tons of VBScript on my pages)

I've also tried Chillisoft ASP for Apache, but can't get it to work with Apache v 2 or 1.3.24. In Apache v 2 I get an error when I try to start Apache after Chillisoft is installed, while Chillisoft can't even recognize apache version 1.3.24 during install.

I don't have access to a win2k installation CD, and I don't like the idea of having to pay for XP prof just to get PWS.

All I need is to debug my ASP pages locally before uploading them to my providers IIS server. Ideas anyone?

I've used quite a few hours on this problem, and never got IIS or PWS to work under XP Home. I DID get Apache to work with Sun ONE ASP (AKA. Chillisoft ASP)

Here's how:

1. Download and install Apache version 1.3.26 from http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/ (Don't download version 2.x, I can't get 2.x to work with ASP)

2. Check that http://localhost/ gives a reply stating that Apache is working.

3. Stop the Apache webserver

4. Use regedit, and locate the key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Apache Group\Apache\1.3.26 make a new key called "1.3.22" (without the quotes) so you get a folder called: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Apache Group\Apache\1.3.22. Now create a stringvalue here exactly like the one in the key "1.3.26". (This is necessary for Chillisoft ASP to find the directory where Apache is installed). Check that the names and values in 1.3.26 and 1.3.22 are exactly the same.

5. Download the windows version of Sun ONE ASP here: http://www.chilisoft.com/downloads/

6. Right-click the downloaded installation file, choose properties, and tell it to run in Windows NT compatible mode (I can't remember why I did this, but maybe it's necessary for the installation to work)

7. Install Sun ONE ASP.

8. After this i rebooted my PC, changed the Apache configuration file to make the ServerRoot point to my ASP pages folder, and made "default.asp" into the page shown when a user selects a folder. I restarted Apache and voila... My old ASP pages were working again

I read the article from google as well about installing IIS on Win XP Home:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3c3c9b9d.518663173%40news

Now according to what I've heard, ALL the files with the EXCEPTION of two: iis.dl_ and iis.in_ are on the Win XP Home CD, or in your C:\I386 folder or whatever.  Those two that are missing are are a Win 2K Pro CD.

Now, for those of you (like myself) who don't have a Win 2k Pro CD, go here:
http://www.geocities.com/manisha_1977/iis.zip

Both files are in that zip file.  The rest of the installation should work.  If you click on the google link above and click show entire thread you will see a lot of people's responses and some solutions to problems you might have.

I have not tried this, but I would like to know when someone does, and if it works.  So please tell me, I am very interested... I think it could work and I have heard it does.

-Phil
fillup07@hotmail.com

Thanks for the Apache Registry hack Tip. I now have ASP pages running on my XP Home edition without a single piece of MS code in sight.

I had previously downloaded version 1.3.24 of Apache and had given up on getting Chillesoft to work with it, however, it seems that as long as you have the registry key under 1.3.22 it will work fine with this version as well.

PS. Re The GoAhead server debate.. !! has anyone managed to get this processing ASP yet. I get nothing but ASP errors for both Javascript and VBScript (alhough the documentation hints that it supports both).... Not that I need it anymore..

Thanks
Peter

Well, has anyone tried getting IIS installed by doing the steps described in this thread and in the link I posted?

Also, what would be the advantages/disadvantages of using IIS or Apache/Chilisoft?

-Phil
fillup07@hotmail.com

In the article "General HOWTO for running IIS in Windows XP Home Edition".

I completed steps 1-6. On step 7 it starts asking for files, so i searched for them on goole, however one of the files (httpext.dll) I couldn't find, all that came up was antivirus stuff.

Does anyone know where I can download this dll file?
And does anyone know what other files it needs.
Better yet, does anyone know where I can download all of the files?

P.S. XP Home edition came on the copmuter I bought so I don't have any CD to get the files from

Thanks

Hi all,

Bundled Win XP Home, got 2000 Server Pro CD, isntalled IIS from that using the above info, workaround.

Then typed localhost in IE and it produced an internal server error (500).

Now stuck, any help to richlondoner@hotmail would be great...

Thanks,
Richard

>>>P.S. XP Home edition came on the copmuter I bought so I don't have any CD to get the files from<<<

Search your harddrive for the files.  Most computers that come with XP Home have a folder with the CD on it.  Mine is C:\I386.  Also search for something like httpext.dl_

-Phil
fillup07@hotmail.com

thanks fillup07, but now I need inetinfo.exe does anyone know where I can get this file (it's not in the C:/I386 folder) If you have it please could you send it to
mansoorchoudhary@hotmail.com
Thanks

hello again, forget the previous two i found the file now i need help with iis.msc, so if you know where i can get it please tell me, or if you have the file please send it to me at mansoorchoudhary@hotmail.com

I'm having the same problem as maccer. Does anyone know where to get the iis.msc file?

There was an article on this subject in the recent .net magazine (A British internet magazine, not the MS dev app) which I thought I would summarise. Goes something like this..

iis.dll is crippled in XP home edition, an upgrade to Pro is required to run it according to Microsoft.

www.mywebserver.org provides a basic web server product, which can also run CGI, and is 'great for beginners'.

www.xitami.com provides another windows based server solution that is more expandable and can be 'coaxed' to run PHP and both provide Java based ASP.

Full instructions for running PWS on Windows ME can be found at billsway.com/notes_public/PWS_WinMe.txt, and 'apparently' the same fix works for XP Home, (although I haven't tried it).

If you have a copy of Windows 2000 on CD, you can coax PWS to work on XP home by trying the following.

1. Open c:\windows\inf\sysoc.inf in a text editor and find the section headed [components]. Change the line "iis=iis.dll, OcEntry, iis.inf, hide, 7" to "iis=iis2.dll, OcEntry, iis2.inf,,7". With your Windows 2000 CD in your drive type 'expand d:\i386\iis.dl_ c:\temp\dll2.inf' at the run prompt.

2. Open the temp folder, copy the newly expanded iis2.dll to c:\windows\system32\setup and iis2.inf in c:\windows\inf, then go to the control panel and choose add/remove windows components. You should now see IIS in the list. Go to Adminstrative tools, and you should now see it.

There are also one or two free online ASP hosts, where you can test pages (if all else fails) at www.domaindlx.com and www.brinkster.com

Hope this helps.

i installed iis5.1 on xp-pro.
using local server to publish web pages

explorer unable to open asp pages.

when i try to open default.asp of default web site
it returned error 500.

when i try to publish from frontpage it says ur local server
doesn't support asp.

I repeat do not waist your time. The crack with the iis5.0 from windows 2000 advance server will not work well on the web server for windows xp home edition. I recommend you install windows xp prof edition for better compatibility.

I waisted 4 hours trying to get the web server to work.
 

Hi all, I have read this rather long post and it has helped me get to step 7 of that in the article "General HOWTO for running IIS in Windows XP Home Edition". I have got two files from a friend of mine, from a win2k advanced CD and expanded them both to IIS2.DLL and IIS2.INF. And copied them to the right folder, then I goto add remove windows components in add remove programs and it asks me for this convlog.exe/ex_ file and I have searched my whole computer for this (even the I386 folder, located C:\WINDOWS\I386\ and its just not there, can anyone help??

NOTE: I have XP Home pre-installed onto my laptop, and have no CD for the XP Home, except a reboot CD.

Thanks for any help given!!!

Youi need the whole i386 folder of windows advance server about 300 Mb. Well if you can get that then I am sure you can get the prefessional version and install it on top.

Good luck.

nah I will just leave it now, I dont want to upgrade...

Hi everyone - especially Hykke.  Thanks for the advice on loading Apache and ChilliSoft ASP onto XP Home.  I've done that and it all works great, except that the ReadMe file suggests that ChilliSoft is going to stop working in 30 days!!  Is there a full, free version that I've missed?

Thanks

    Hi igWeb

I'm happy to hear you got Chillisoft ASP installed using the instructions from my previous post. I downloaded the developers version of Chillisoft ASP, and it hasn't stopped working yet...

Just remember that the developers version should only be used for developing the pages on your local PC, don't use it as an actual webserver. So far I'm very happy with Chillisoft ASP I haven't found anything that IIS does better than Chillisoft. (Except maybe for XP-Home installation problems, IIS creates a lot more of those than Chillisoft

      Regards,
      Jens Hykkelbjerg
      hykkelbjerg@hotmail.com

I would like to thank Hykke for reccomending Chillisoft!!!  It works great.  I have been trying to get some type of server on my XP-HE computer since I got it.  I tried the IIS workaround and got fed up.  Just remember to get the "Free Developer Edition" of Chillisoft not the trial.  

Hi, I have done what Hykke said and its worked perfect until the end part:

8. After this i rebooted my PC, changed the Apache configuration file to make the ServerRoot point to my ASP pages folder, and made "default.asp" into the page shown when a user selects a folder. I restarted Apache and voila... My old ASP pages were working again

I actually have a snitz forum, dunno if you've heard of it? And have tried to run it with the apache server with the Chillisoft ASP software. I have edited my configuration file to make the server root point to C:/program files/apache group/apache/htdocs and I have edited my config file (contains the connection string to the database) so that it points to my database correctly and for some reason it wont find it?

Now for some reason when I access the http://localhost I get this:



Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Apache/1.3.26 Server at www.testsite.com Port 80



I put it my file name http://localhost/default and I get this:



Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80004005'

Could not find file 'C:\folder\database.mdb'.

config.asp, line 134




And that is the path to my database. Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve this?

Thanks!


P.S I want to keep XP Home, so no suggestions on upgrading to pro/2k lol.

actually ignore that post, its working like a dream now! Many thanks hykke! Its a great solution that actually works!

Hi,

I have followed this thread from the start. I have Win XP Pro and nowhere but nowhere is there anything about IIS or PWS in there. Can anyone suggest where I can find it? My XP is the upgrade pro version and now has the SP1 installed and there is no "INETMGR" nor anything in Administrative Tools.

I'm baffled as hell - not unusual where Microsoft programs are concerned.

Thanks for any help.

Tony

Have you installed it under Add Programs/Windows Components and tick IIS and install

Saturday 12.00 20.00 3.00am   Sunday  

Thanx Gary - That's the problem. Never even thought of it.
Looks like I had too much beer on Monday rather then Saturday!!!
Tony

Been trying to get started with my asp programming but eversince I installed Win XP pro, I've not been able to open any of my asp files.  By default, the IIS has already been installed when Win XP pro is installed.  I have already set the default directory to start running but everytime i try to browse a *.asp extension, IE responses with unable to connect.

How are you looking for the asp files, i.e. what address ru using?

Saturday 12.00 20.00 3.00am   Sunday  

I'm pretty new to asp programming.  I was working in Win ME with the following address: http://localhost,which is the same address that i use to access the asp files in Win XP Pro.  Currently, i've tried accessing the files from the default directory and also by creating a virtual directory but have been terribly unsuccessful in opening an asp file.

Are you sure IIS is installed?  I dont remember it being installed by default when i swapped to XP Pro, if it is check that scripts are enabled for the default directory.

Saturday 12.00 20.00 3.00am   Sunday  

Yes, IIS is installed since I am able to access the IIS by typing inetmgr using the "RUN" under start.  However, how do I check that the scripts are enabled for the default directory.  Currently, all i see is that the state for the "Default Web Site" is running.  

Control Panel/Admin Tools/Internet Info Services. Right click on default Web Site and Properties. Under the Home Directory Tab check that Execute Permissions is set to Scripts.  This could be the reason if its set to None

Saturday 12.00 20.00 3.00am   Sunday  

Hi Gary,

Thanks for that tip but unfortunately, I still can't access any asp files.  I keep getting "The page cannot be displayed" everytime I try to click "Browse" when selecting an asp file from the default web site.  Any other suggestions?

Duh,
I think, rather than selecting it thru Browse use localhost/ and your directory and filename

Saturday 12.00 20.00 3.00am   Sunday  

Hi Gary

I still get the message "The page cannot be displayed".  I'm knocking off right now.  Thanks for helping out.  If you can think of anything else that could help me out, please post a message and I'll probably revisit the site tommorrow and check it out.

Thanks for your help.

Turn off friendly error messages under Tools/Internet Options and Advanced tab and see if you get a more descriptive error message

Saturday 12.00 20.00 3.00am   Sunday  

When I turn off my friendly HTTP erros I get told that the specified module cannot be found.

I had problems originally getting my ASP pages to work with IIS 5 on Win XP Pro.

Turns out the MMC was arguing with Zone Alarm Pro (and lost).

If I disable Zone Alarm before running the IIS services, all is sweetness and light!

Might be worth checking if you have a personal firewall installed (maybe even check the in built firewall in XP Pro)?

Mark

I had this same problem.  Drove me nuts.  I checked all of the FAQ's, documentation, etc. with no luck.

From the last posting, I began to suspect something else running on my machine.  I went to Norton Anti-Virus and turned off Script Blocking.  Options -> Script Blocking -> Uncheck "Enable Script Blocking."

.asp runs fine now.

>> TonyU (TechnicalUser) Oct 31, 2002
>> Man, this post is old.  

Boy you can say that again !! Well actually everyone would probably prefer you don't


Way back at the begining Einstein47 said:
>> That makes up my mind to NOT "down-grade" to Win XP Home
>> Edition. If I want to use ASP, I can't do it on Win XP
>> Home. That just stinks.

Yeah, Home editions are not meant for development.

If that was already addressed in the last 1200 years of posts in this thread I'm sorry for repeating it but I couldn't read the entire thread.

-pete

If you are looking to install iis take a look here

http://www.geocities.com/pippo_mares/iis.htm

I've used the information in Hykke's 7 July 2002 posting to install an Apache server on my XP home edition. I then installed the Chilisoft ASP. Several questions:

The Apache information said that the QoS should be disabled. How is that done?

In the configuration file I set ServerRoot to C:/ASPpages (a directory I'd set up) and the server seemed to quit working?

Where do I find "default.asp"?

Are FrontPage extensions available for this configuration?

Thank you for taking the time to consider questions from a very novice user.

I'm always happy to see that someone has used my advice.
Let me see if I can answer your questions:

1. The Apache information said that the QoS should be disabled. How is that done?

Err I don't know. I don't think that I did that. I don't even know what a "QoS" is...

2. In the configuration file I set ServerRoot to C:/ASPpages (a directory I'd set up) and the server seemed to quit working?

I don't think you should change the serverRoot Setting. It should still point to the place where you installed Apache. Instead you should change the DocumentRoot setting.

Here is my own DocumentRoot setting from my Apache configuration file:

DocumentRoot "C:/inetpub/wwwroot"


3. Where do I find "default.asp"?

Err I don't really understand this question. You should write your own default.asp, and place it in the directory pointed to by the DocumentRoot setting, this file will then become the localhost startpage.

4. Are FrontPage extensions available for this configuration?

Not to my knowledge...

      Regards,
      Jens Hykkelbjerg
      hykkelbjerg@hotmail.com

Thanks for the reply!!!

Re QoS:
http://nagoya.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/#xpbug has the following message:

Additional Warning: we recommend disabling the "Quality of Service" (or QoS) network driver from Microsoft if you are using Apache, since Apache does not support the QoS extensions to the WinSock API.

I have an ASP application which runs fine on PWS in W98.  When transferred to XP Pro, there were 3 problems.
1. I had to install the equivalent of PWS so I could create a virtual directory.  The solution to this was given earlier in this thread - ref INETSRV.  GREAT.
2. Session variables did not work.  The solution to this was also given earlier in this thread - ref DISABLE ZONE ALARM. GREAT.
3. I cannot read/write with ASCII files using textstreams and file system objects.  No problem in W98.  THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING PROBLEM UNDER XP.

I SHOULD BE MOST GRATEFUL TO ANYONE WHO CAN MAKE HELPFUL SUGGESTIONS.

MANY THANKS IN ANTICIPATION.

MHUK.

1) If zone alarm is trying to protect you from malicious scripts, make it stop, it is also protecting your files from the FileSystemObject acessing them, this is a maybe fix for zone alarm, a definate fix for Norton (I don't use ZA)
2) If you can get a list of files from the directory, then your FileSystemObject has access. The problem is most likely in the permissions set on the file, the easiest way to test this out is to give the Everyone group full read/write access to a file and try reading/writing from/to it.

I have a free copy of XP Pro from MS, but I still haven't installed it as w2K Server is stable and there is that whole don't fix it if it ain't broke way of thought :)
If the top two don't work maybe someone running XP will have beter luck helping.

-Tarwn

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I tried disabling Norton Anti-Virus software and this did not work.

I then copied the folder which contains the ASCII files into the shared couments folder, gave it read and write and directory browsing priveleges under web sharing, and changed the appropriate path in my code.

This still did not work, so I am still in the same position.

The reason I was using the files in W98 was a simple method of preserving settings, e.g frame colors etc.  This can be done in an alternative fashion using database tables but ascii files (usually single line files) seems a sensible method.

I think the general answer is "NO" to IIS or PWS working on XP Home Edition.
I have read ways that you can play with the IIS code to enable it to work on XP-Home, this seems a very lengthy process, and heard of many issues with this. Upgrade to "pro" would be best but not always viable. For example I like to work on my laptop, and XP-HE is the standard build.

As the Laptop is mainly used for video work it has been specially set up, I decided to find an alternative to IIS and did the following:

Installed an application called (Abyss Web Server X1) http://www.aprelium.com

Then downloaded and installed (Visual Basic 6.0 Runtime) this enabled me to install (ActiveHTML) both can be downloaded from http://www.selisoft.com

Followed the (Adding ASP Support) to Abyss Web Server http://www.aprelium.com/abyssws/asp.html

Same thing for PHP and MySQL

So far I have not found any faults..

Hi everyone just what to say that i bought a new laptop pre-installed with windows xp home edition.
i used the method with the windows 2000 professional cd and i worked 100% just had a bit of a problem with the directry sercurity in the. i wouldnt let me connect to the server but when i changed the user name from IUSR_WES to IUSR_*WES it worked fine. just want to say thanks to every one. got it going.
i also got the apache server will chilisoft going but i prefer iis.
cheers
wes

Hello !!

About installing IIS or PWS on Desktop with win XP Home Edition.
I would really like a personal webserver, becaurse I am beginning a project where i need to learn VBscipt and ASP.

My action:
I have read the tread above, about succes with the use of win 2000 prof. Unfortuanlly i do not have win 2kprof...
I have then accessed the file sysoc.inf and deleted the line "hide". Then the PWS appers, in the windows Add Componets Panel. But I can not tjeck it and install it:( I can se that it can be done and would like to be eXplanied what to do next.

Do i need to copy and get the 2 files iis2.inf and iis2.dll from, elsewhere or from win2k prof. and then upgrade through the dos -prompt to these 2 above files from the existing files iis.inf and iss.dll = ?

And if above is correctly, do I need the discused command EXPAND from the prompt ?

My mind teels my, that if i do the above in my further actions, I am on the right way, but maybe i can be completly guide to the right solution ? I would be very happy to some respons on this thread.

Very happy new year, and excuse my bad english. After all I am danish ;o)

Alaadin -Denmark

Hello Alaadin,
I have successfully installed the Apache / Chilisoft solution as described by Hykke in this thread on July 7 and the Abyss Webserver / Selisoft ASP solution by Nboy on Dec 9th.  From my limited experience I would think that that the Apache Chilisoft install is what you would need for a robust internet server with lots of daily hits, but I have found the Abyss/Selisoft combination easier to install and maintain for the development of ASP sites in an internal environment.  Just a personal view.

Ian

Rather stupid question perhaps, as it is probably just a bug with my Computer and Xp Home, but I downloaded Chilisoft, right clicked and changed compatability to NT but I can't even get it to install, the setup box just sits there, and sits there etc...

Has this happened to anyone else, and if so what did you do to rectify the problem.

Many thanks in advance

I also run xp home.
I am trying the Apache/chilisoft approch to running asp.
I also found the the installation of chili soft was slow.
It took a long time maybe 30 minutes.
Try letting it run.

TheGreenOne,

thanks, that's probably what it is, impatience on my part, I'll set it up again tonight, and just let it do it's business, see if that makes a difference, I'll post my success or failure in the morning.

thanks again :)

Hi everyone.

I need some help. I have tried the work-around, only I grabbed the two files from a Win XP Pro cd. In add comp. I see IIS on the list but can't check the box, ohh damn :( How come ? You guys gotta help me out here - thanks in advance.

Brotha

Ok, I tried that workaround for XP Home to use the IIS from win2k, and no joy...  Kept asking for files that I don't have and couldn't find.  Unfortunately, my 'puter didn't come with a CD, and having XP Pro as the OS wasn't an option, which meant I was stuck with XP Home.

Not a problem, I thought, XP Home should support everything I need...  nice one microsoft...

So, has anyone tried installing the win98 PWS onto XP Home to see if that works?

I NEED to develop some ASP on my laptop, and so far I've been stumped...  Anyone help me?

Thanks in advance...
T.C.

Hey Everyone..

About IIS or PWS on XP Home.

I wrote a thread 4. Jan 2003, and I have got a litle bit longer in the process.

The guide above of 7.may 2002, and also on http://www.15seconds.com/issue/020118.htm is usefull, but i stil got some problems. I have replaced the 2 files IIS.DL_ and IIS.INF and used the file extension tool in dos -prompt to expand the 2 files to iis2.dll and iss2.inf. Cool, then i can check the Installation of IIS from the "ad windows components", in ad new programs. But it then prompt me for files.. and first i did not have those.

Then i downloaded a pws from the net - and files, and some of these files could be used .. and I also downloaded som Win2000 sp1_i386 files that also can be used.. but a file is missing: IIS_infoctrs.h ?

Dos anyone have the same problem, and do anyone know where I can download this file and get further in the process.

Great thanks for solutions.



 

regarding getting chilisoft asp running on apache on windows xp home edition...

is this set up compatible with using microsoft visual interdev 6.0 and/or microsoft asp.net for debugging ?

thank you.

robert

    Hi Robert

You need a Microsoft server extension on the webserver to use Interdev or .NET debugging. Chillisoft doesn't support this feature. (AFAIK)

Personally I still use Interdev to edit my webpages, but I can only use it by opening the files one by one locally. I can't create a web project, since Interdev requires a webserver for that.

(See my previous articles in this thread for an explanation of how to make Chillisoft work as an ASP webserver under XP)

      Regards,
      Jens Hykkelbjerg
      hykkelbjerg@hotmail.com

all this trouble for nothing! :)  Learn PHP instead! :) Runs on any OS and doesn't have any problem installing! :)

http://sourceforge.net/projects/phptriad/

Gary www.xutopia.com Haran
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Since I program professionally every day in ASP, I have no desire to learn anything else when I already know ASP.  I need to use it and Visual Studio 6 or Visual Studio.Net, and I need to have the debugging working, since it greatly increases development speed and decreases development headaches.  

But thanks for the advice.

Hykke

I went to have a go at your Apache/Chilisoft option but Chilisoft is now called Sun One ASP and I've not found any mention of there still being a free developer edition (on the downloads page there is just one file to download for each operating system).

Is Sun One going to time-out on me or do you know where I can still obtain a developer version of the original Chilisoft ASP because I've had no luck searching via Google - thanks.

Visit my ice hockey site at: http://www.leevalleylions.co.uk

Now I've had a go with the hack using the files from Windows 2000 Server but have fallen at the first hurdle because I don't understand how to expand the iis.dl and iis.in files.

I saved the whole i386 onto my hard drive to be on the safe side, then saved them into the top level of the C drive. The command prompt brought up "C:\Documents and Settings\Julianne>". I typed "cd.." twice to get to a "C:\>" prompt, then typed it "expand iis.dl_iis2.dll" like the instructions said.

That brought up a line which said "No destination specified for: iis.dl_iis2.dll".

If I typed in "edit expand iis.dl_iis2.dll" a blue window appeared with just a flashing cursor and I still didn't have a clue what to do!

Can someone please fill me in on exactly what I have to do to get the files to expand as I've never tried anything like this before - many thanks.

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Hello There!!!I Been using XP Home edition for awhile now,I Have the pws 4.0 installend with no problem,all you need is front page 98 CD,and fp 2000 sevr ext and if you have fp2002 works well with it,,no mess no fuss I even have apache server with php triad all does what I need I even have two host 1 at http://localhost and 1 at http:// mad/   I remember I upgraded xp home to pro just for the lil server micro left out without me even knowing about that when I BOUGHT THIS MACHINE,XP Was new and I did not know Bill made two op sys that were called xp I thought xp was just xp and you can do anything boy was I wrong,wel not really...heheheheh..it's just as good if not better then pro now...hehehehehe

try this site for .dll and .inf files, extremely useful

http://www.dynamiclink.nl/

Now, reading through all the workarounds i got to seeing the IIS selection and checking it, it started installation and asked for files, many i got from the above link but got stuck with the .exe. My PC came with Home edition and when i put in the CD that came with it, none of the required files could be found so i got stuck.

I downloaded Apache and got it working well, I prefer Indigoperl server though and Apache ASP. After going to all the trouble of installing these ASP work arounds , nobody told me it was only good for developing new ASP, I could not download my web site pages, completely, developed on PWS ASP from my host and update or modify those pages as neither chilisoft or Apache ASP will work for this.(Updating existing files developed on IIS with Microsoft ASP)

As my whole site is Microsoft ASP developed on my win98 software I either must upgrade to pro edition or start my web site from scratch using one of the Apache ASP modules and mySQL rather than Access.

Clearly Microsoft are nothing more than cheap rogues, tricking people in buying two versions of WinXP by not disclosing that XP HE is a downgrade from win98. This is enough to justify my decision to redesign my site to suit apache and also ask my host to move my site to a unix server!

Thanks
Brandon

So who needs IIS!!

 I downloaded indigoperl with Apache server. (because it has such an easy interface for adding modules) cnfigured php, perl, cgi, and mySQL then downloaded the sun asp (chilisoft) and ran the .exe file.

 Then I downloaded my whole site off the IIS server, access databases the works and voila, after changing my domain hyperlinks to localhost my whole ASP site works as is, all access database connections and functions intact.

I now have a cross platform solution, that supports ASP, PHP, CGI, ASP and mySQL along with my Access Databases. I can maintain my ASP site and even take advantage of some free UNIX hosting solutions to play around with some other site ideas.

Thank you microsoft for taking the IIS, PWS function out of XP HE as i would never have discovered this cross platform solution. I am now hard at work building a new site in php and as soon as it's ready i am switching to the apache and PHP, mySQL options, Never again will I put such trust in microsoft and allow them to pull the carpet out from under my feet at will!

Brandon

firersa :
"I now have a cross platform solution"
hm?

u had it before Apache...it IS a reversable process u know!
the DB the ASP does not chage....IIS is free/included...PHP is free for windoz and is mySQL and APache if wanted.......
Besides XP is a vaste of money (except for PTP)...Home Edition states in its name what it is :)
win2000 is probably the most stable with IIS ( perhaps NT 4 with IIS and MEGA patches applied)
ChiliSft is NOT free!
open source vs. payed source.....
in any case I am GLAD that XP does not come with IIS as I hope this OS goes of the market....ok those "icon-lovers" can keep the skin! :D ...just kidding

> need more info?
:: don't click HERE ::

When trying to install Sun ONE ASP along with Apache on XP HE did any one run into problems with the Sun installer not detecting any web servers?  I followed Hykke's posts, made sure Apache was not running, but I can't get through the installation.

I followed Hykke's post,that is very helpful!It can work!Thanks a lot for that !!

best regards
ping

I also followed Hykkes instructions, but could not get asp pages to show.

kept on bringing up the pages in the default editor that i have, not as i expected.

    Hi Greg

If you're using your webbrowser to bring up a page like http://localhost/default.asp, and your default ASP editor is launched, then there must be an error in your webserver/ASP configuration. I would expect this behaviour if you were double-clicking on your ASP files, not when you access your ASP files through your apache webserver.

      Regards,
      Jens Hykkelbjerg
      hykkelbjerg@hotmail.com

Just some more information if any body is interested. I followed Scott_J's suggestion and installed Chilisoft on XP Home with a SUN ONE Web Server and it is working fine!!

Regards
Satish