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popping, distorted voice calls on speaker phone 9508

larrythephoneguy (Vendor)
24 May 12 12:29
Ok I have a 500v2 R8.0.16, 2@DS-30's, and 1 phone 16. About 40 9508 phones.
Customer complained about buzzing and static only when on the speaker phone, both internal and external on all the phones. Had busines partner go out and adjust the echo canelling and gains on a couple of the phones with no difference. I know that on release 7.0 and these phones there was a known issue and release 8.0 should have fixed it. Contacted tech support and they said to upgrade to R8.0.18 which I did remotely, Noticed that when the DS-30in the 1st expansion port did it's backups it took like 10 minutes and the actual upgrade took a long time too,but the upgrade that didn't fix anything, then noticed that 8.0.42 came out and upgraded to that. In the process I lost the connection to the DS-30 in the 2nd expansion slot, rebooted a ton of times over the weekend and nothing. Had my contact on site do a hard power cycle and all came up but problem still remained. Also it is a intermittant problem. We decided to replace the DS-30 in the first expansion slot because it has the most phones active on it.I read a couple of posting about upgrading the DS-30's (out-of-box) to 3.2.999. This I did. The backups and upgrades seemed to work like it is suppose to now. We have also replaced the processor and the other DS-30 and the phone 16, so in short, we have replaced all hardware. This past Tuesday when I first powered up the IPO the phone 16 did its upgrades and I upgraded the new DS-30 to 3.2.999 noticed that on the upgrade tab, both DS-30 listed so I only checked the 2nd one. When it was done with that upgrade I notice that both DS-30's were at 3.2.999. I changed it back to manager then upgraded to 8.0.42. I also seen that both DS-30's were now at 8.0.42.

Before I replaced the modules,I finally was able to hear what they are talking about. It is now buzzing or static, it is popping on the first syllable and distorted some of the sounds.

I did a reboot after the upgrades and both DS-30's would not synchrone until I rebooted several more times. After that I rebooted a again and everything came up as it should. In the process of all that, both my T1's dropped. It took a couple of hours for the provider to fix that.
I got a list, finally, from the contact onsite of the extension that was have this trouble, and found that all but 1 is on the 2nd DS-30. Now that it has been replace I am hoping this is fixed. I am currently running monitor if I have to open a ticket with Avaya.
Sorry this is long but just wondering what my next step is, if any, if this come back. And by the way it takes about 4 days for the problem to came back.
larrythephoneguy (Vendor)
25 May 12 9:23
Is it possible that the 9508 phones are acting like ip phones? So what I am really hearing is packets being dropped?
montyzummer (IS/IT--Management)
26 May 12 10:38
hmm not following your logic here staging the ds to 3.2.99 is the correct procedure , R8.043 is the most current release so that is your next step, your question on packet loss is irrelevant as Ds phones work of TDM (time division multiplexing) , have you plugged the phones direct into the DS units to elliminate any site cabling issues?

APSS (SME)
ACSS (SME)

larrythephoneguy (Vendor)
26 May 12 11:18
thanks for the response, I know R8.0.43 is the newest but seeing what it is suppose to fix, I don't see how that will help. No I have not plugged directly into the DS30's because it is very intermittant. We had them replace a couple of phones with some extra phones that they ordered and it took about 4 days for the problem to return. We replace modules and control unit and it takes about 3-4 days to return. I said that the calls sound like packets being dropped because I have never heard anything sound like this before, ever. I'm grasping at straws tring to come up with a solution. And again it might be fixed.
montyzummer (IS/IT--Management)
26 May 12 11:49
cool, i mention 8.043 as that is what avaya will suggest in the first instance , I know that this is intermittant but if you can eliminate on site variables like cabling etc it will give you more ammo when and if you do need to log a ticket , you may(unlikly but possible have a bad batch of phones), can you identify a user that it happens to most frequently or who moans the most and supply them with a temp replacement 54** or a 1416 , again to eliminate things one by one.At least then mr customer can see you are trying all in your power to identify the problem and hopefully will pacify them ...if only a little

I feel your pain though as you "in theory" have supported hardware and its frustrating to the customer and us techs who are in the firing line ,
anyway keep us posted.

APSS (SME)
ACSS (SME)

larrythephoneguy (Vendor)
26 May 12 14:32
i have a list of extensions and we did swap out 3 or 4 9508 with 5420's but i don't remember just how long those phone we running and if the problem came back. I know that when I upgraded to 8.0.42 that is when i switched the phones back. Now that the equipment has been returned to Avaya I guess my next step will be to send a couple of new phones to them. Thanks again for your time and responses.
larrythephoneguy (Vendor)
26 May 12 21:54
Since I have replace all of the hardware and started monitor, I cleared out all of the errors on system status. Tonight I dialed in and took a look and found an error is says, "The following system resources are all in use: Voice Compression Module Channels (VCM)”. This is interesting since we didn't install any.
tlpeter (Programmer)
27 May 12 1:58
That is a know bug SSA.
Sometimes it throws out fake errors.

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