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Telephone wiring Cat 6 vs Cat 3

Telephone wiring Cat 6 vs Cat 3

(OP)
I ran cat 6 cable for a phone system that only uses a 4 wire cable. My problem is that it seems as though I do not have enough power for the phones to work. I have all the other phones about the same distance that are connected with cat 3. Would this be an actual issue?

Thanks for any help

RE: Telephone wiring Cat 6 vs Cat 3

What kind of phones are you referring to? Do the phones require a ksu (server)?

Lets forget about Cat anything for now and start with the basic.
What do you mean by they seem to have not enough power?

TJ

RE: Telephone wiring Cat 6 vs Cat 3

Most phones will work fine on Cat6, unless they are at the edge of their distance limits.  However, I suspect that you've run the Cat6 to Ethernet standards, hence your runs should be shorter than 90 meters.  I suspect that you have a jack/pin out issue.  Are you modular on both ends?  Remember that the center pins are wh/bl and next pins out are wh/gn in a 568B config - pertinent if MDF end is a 66 block instead of modular.
Mike
 

RE: Telephone wiring Cat 6 vs Cat 3

Since cat6 uses a larger wire gauge than cat3 I can't imagine that cable is the problem. However since cat6 is a different gauge wire you need to be sure the connectors you used are designed for cat6.

As always a basic continuity & pin out test should be the first thing you check.

RE: Telephone wiring Cat 6 vs Cat 3

The pairs of wires in CAT6 cable are twisted tighter than CAT3 so a 1' piece of CAT6 will have slightly longer conductors that a 1' piece of CAT3. But yes....as others have said.... check to make sure all pairs are terminated properly and that the terminating hardware can support the thicker copper conductors.

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RE: Telephone wiring Cat 6 vs Cat 3

(OP)
Thanks all
OK so I have what looks like a 568B config and a 66 block
So can I assume that on the 66 block I need to punch down vertically wh/bl wh/gn or in other words 4,5,3,6 ??

RE: Telephone wiring Cat 6 vs Cat 3

Normally you use wh/bu and wh/br.
Good luck.

RE: Telephone wiring Cat 6 vs Cat 3

66 blocks are wired in this order (4 pair cable) from the top:

w/blue   (bl)
blue/w
w/orange (or)
orange/w
w/green  (gr)
green/w
w/brown  (br)
brown/w
 
If you need to move the pair order around you should do that with crossconnect wire. Mforrence's post may have hit the nail on the head. You likely have a cross up in the second pair. On the 66 block the second pair is ORANGE, on a 568B jack the second pair is GREEN. 568A is more in keeping with telephone work. So you likely have three choices (my preferred order):

1. Reterm the jacks to 568A.

2. Fix the pair 2/3 reversal with crossconnect wire at the 66 block(s).

3. Use nonstandard order on the 66 block (bl,gr,or,br).

What kind of phones are these?
 

RE: Telephone wiring Cat 6 vs Cat 3

(OP)
Well I got my issues resolved I want to thank all for your input and help. This site is terrific I hope I may be of help to someone else

RE: Telephone wiring Cat 6 vs Cat 3

I am thinking on the station end, the phone will get -48v from the w/br.

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