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Newly installed XP, network connection but no internet

srmillward (Programmer)
24 Sep 10 7:08
Hi

Got a weird one here .
I often fix PC's in my garage.
Fresh install of XP, hoo up to my network using homeplugs, internet not a problem.
NOW
I have just installed XP on a PC, it gets a proper IP address, I was getting 169.254.n.n yesterday, but now I get a 19.168.0.n
I can see the other PC on the network.
But I can't access the internet at all from this PC.
I've tried another PC on this network (using same homeplug) not a problem, updated fine.

Any ideas ?
I've formatted and installed XP again, but the same issue.
Lemon13 (MIS)
24 Sep 10 7:38
please post a ipconfig /all here, firewall/mac filtering?
what results in
ping 127.0.0.1
ping gateway
ping google.com

M. Knorr

MCSE, MCTS, MCSA, CCNA

goombawaho (MIS)
24 Sep 10 8:21
If you don't want to post the above, just do the following and see if it works for you.

At the command line, type:
netsh int ip reset c:\resetlog.txt


reboot
srmillward (Programmer)
24 Sep 10 8:45
OK, here are the results of the requested pings above
C:\Documents and Settings\Pedro>ping 127.0.0.1

Pinging 127.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 127.0.0.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Pedro>ping gateway
Ping request could not find host gateway. Please check the name and try again.

C:\Documents and Settings\Pedro>ping google.com

Pinging google.com [173.194.37.104] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Reply from 173.194.37.104: bytes=32 time=195ms TTL=55
Reply from 173.194.37.104: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=54
Reply from 173.194.37.104: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 173.194.37.104:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 36ms, Maximum = 195ms, Average = 92ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Pedro>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pedro-xp
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : cable.virginmedia.net

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : cable.virginmedia.net
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IC Plus IP1000 Family Gigabit Ethern
et Adapter
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-06-4F-5C-38-CF
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.103
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 24 September 2010 11:45:56
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 01 October 2010 11:45:56

C:\Documents and Settings\Pedro>
srmillward (Programmer)
24 Sep 10 8:48
and here is the ipconfig /all for my pc (working fine on same network)
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Steve>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : steve-xp
        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : cable.virginmedia.net

Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet8:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
VMnet8
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-08
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.80.1
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter VMware Network Adapter VMnet1:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for
VMnet1
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-56-C0-00-01
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.44.1
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : cable.virginmedia.net
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-DB-C1-47-C7
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.106
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 24 September 2010 07:37:21
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 01 October 2010 07:37:21

C:\Documents and Settings\Steve>

i have VMPlayer on this machine, but that isn't a problem as I Have attached another PC to the same network plug as the one with a problem and that works fine.
srmillward (Programmer)
24 Sep 10 9:12
netsh int ip reset results

reset   SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Dhcp\Parameters\Options\15\RegLocation
            old REG_MULTI_SZ =
                SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\?\DhcpDomain
                SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\TcpIp\Parameters\DhcpDomain

added   SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters\Interfaces\Tcpip_{6D75C3F5-DFDF-4439-B3AC-DE0D2E364D6C}\NetbiosOptions
added   SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters\Interfaces\Tcpip_{9721924E-E85E-444B-8E7A-1E74F38E6307}\NetbiosOptions
deleted SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters\EnableLmhosts
added   SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{599FD129-7B79-4E58-86DD-C759D587D5B1}\DisableDynamicUpdate
deleted SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{599FD129-7B79-4E58-86DD-C759D587D5B1}\IpAutoconfigurationAddress
deleted SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{599FD129-7B79-4E58-86DD-C759D587D5B1}\IpAutoconfigurationMask
deleted SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{599FD129-7B79-4E58-86DD-C759D587D5B1}\IpAutoconfigurationSeed
reset   SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{599FD129-7B79-4E58-86DD-C759D587D5B1}\RawIpAllowedProtocols
            old REG_MULTI_SZ =
                0

reset   SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{599FD129-7B79-4E58-86DD-C759D587D5B1}\TcpAllowedPorts
            old REG_MULTI_SZ =
                0

reset   SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{599FD129-7B79-4E58-86DD-C759D587D5B1}\UdpAllowedPorts
            old REG_MULTI_SZ =
                0

deleted SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\DontAddDefaultGatewayDefault
deleted SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\EnableIcmpRedirect
deleted SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\EnableSecurityFilters
deleted SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\SearchList
deleted SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\UseDomainNameDevolution
reset   Linkage\UpperBind for PCI\VEN_13F0&DEV_1023&SUBSYS_102313F0&REV_41\3&61AAA01&0&38.  bad value was:
            REG_MULTI_SZ =
                PSched

reset   Linkage\UpperBind for ROOT\MS_NDISWANIP\0000.  bad value was:
            REG_MULTI_SZ =
                PSched

<completed>

 
goombawaho (MIS)
24 Sep 10 9:27
Did you reboot and try it after the command I gave you??

Results???
srmillward (Programmer)
24 Sep 10 10:03
yes I did, still the same, I try and go on the internet and it transfers in bytes per sceond, not the 400K + i get from the same network point on a different PC.
One thing that is also odd is that if I look at the network connection it shows as firewalled, yet on my PC upstairs, it doesn't.
I only have windows firewall on both of the machines, so its odd that the PC (with the problem) is showing as firewalled. I don't have any firewall software on it.
It was like this after XP install and up to SP3 installed.

This is looking very odd, I@ve done loads of PC's from the garage and not one problem ever.

All devices are installed correctly.
I am at a total loss as to why this is happening
goombawaho (MIS)
24 Sep 10 10:36
Don't blame the garage just yet.  Time to try a different network card in that PC just for the heck of it.  Assuming you have been using the same network CABLE when you compare these machines.

I'm just suspicious that it's NOT O.S.-related and not router-related and not ISP-related.

You could also throw a wireless USB card in there if you had one and you have wireless floating around.
Lemon13 (MIS)
24 Sep 10 10:37
Download and run this (use optimize settings)
http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php
then reboot and see if things go better now.

M. Knorr

MCSE, MCTS, MCSA, CCNA

goombawaho (MIS)
24 Sep 10 11:06
^^^ I'm betting that won't do it, but I've been wrong before.  If that DOESN'T help, then I'm more inclined to blame the NIC itself, in which case another card will prove things.
tlcscousin (TechnicalUser)
24 Sep 10 11:55
Is there any security software installed (anti-virus firewall not forgetting about xp's built in firewall which you can disable in control panel-->Windows Firewall-->Off)?
It looks like you have actual connectivity if you can ping an internet address and get DNS resolution and replies that would suggest software blocking the browser.
srmillward (Programmer)
24 Sep 10 12:11
ok will try that,
the PC itself has an onboard LAN and there was also a card with it.
I was using the PCI lan as I had the driver and tried it as soon as I had XP installed, prior to ANYTHING else being installed.
Previously I tried using the onboard LAN but got the same results.

I've tried it with Windows firewall off and no difference,

The machine in the garage was connected using the same cable and Homeplug as another PC that works fine.

I will try your download link Lemon and will post the results.
One thing I will try tomorrow is a direct connection to a modem.
I asked my cousin if he had any internet problems before and he said no.

Bloody P****** B*** PC's haha
guitarzan (Programmer)
24 Sep 10 12:49
If you are using Internet Explorer, check the proxy settings:
Go to Tools > Internet Options > Connections tab > LAN Settings button and make sure everything is UN-checked.
tlcscousin (TechnicalUser)
24 Sep 10 12:53
Have you checked for a proxy server setting in Internet options?
Have you logged into the router and checked that it doesnt have a rule set to deny connection to the computer in question?
BadBigBen (MIS)
24 Sep 10 20:54
Q: did you run the Internet Connection Wizard?

in case you haven't, here are the instructions as to how:
http://www.vonl.net/support/faq/winxp/index.cfm

if you have, you could also issue the following commands, from a CLI (DOS box) and reboot:

ipconfig /flushdns

netsh winsock reset catalog


if the above does nothing to alleviate the problem, then I'm also inclined to believe along the lines of Goom's reasoning, that the NIC is shot...

also for your information:

the ping statistic, the PC seems to resolve correctly...

you can ping the LoopBack address (127.0.0.1), you can ping Google.com, just not "gateway" (which does not resolve on my system either)...


 

Ben
"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."
How to ask a question, when posting them to a professional forum.
Only ask questions with yes/no answers if you want "yes" or "no"

tlcscousin (TechnicalUser)
25 Sep 10 2:23
If you can ping by FQDN and it resolves and replies i doubt it would be the NIC although stranger things have happened.
Usually no browsing but ping works ends up being software or settings on the computer.
I suppose it could be an auto negotiation issue but usually that gives a network cable unplugged error.
Ping gateway will never work as windows has no idea where gateway is it looks for a network device on the network named gateway.
Have you tried safe mode with networking which normally bypasses most software (although now some of the anti virus companies have started making their software so that it runs in safe mode).
srmillward (Programmer)
25 Sep 10 8:29
SOLVED !!!!

tried it on a set up without the router and it worked fine.
I couldn't see anything on the PC that would stop the internet traffic, nothing on the router either (even gave it a fixed IP on the router)

No idea what caused this, but its gone away now.

Thanks for all of your responses !
Freestone (MIS)
29 Sep 10 15:57
Ping gateway most likely referred to pinging your Default Gateway address as shown in ipconfig /all, e.g. ping  192.168.0.1

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