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PeoplesBKTech (TechnicalUser) (OP)
23 Dec 08 14:42
Can someone give me a tutorial on how to read PBX alarms..

--> Major Alarm received at TM!  - 2008 12 23 02 23 35 00 - DCH054 -
--> PBX:NJ:CS - \7\330\14\27\2\30'\0 - 202 - DCH: 10 EST REMOTE TIME:
--> 2:24:38  23/12/2008 ;;

What does this mean??? I know something about the DCH
StoneColdphoneman (TechnicalUser)
23 Dec 08 14:52
EST is telling you that the DCH recovered.
Connect to the system and STAT DCH in LD 96.
 
PeoplesBKTech (TechnicalUser) (OP)
23 Dec 08 14:56

DCH 009 : OPER       EST   ACTV  AUTO  DES : NYC/.HCGY000042
DCH 010 : OPER       EST   ACTV  AUTO  DES : MCI
DCH 012 : OPER       EST   ACTV  AUTO  DES :PR_JAS_H34Z_0001
DCH 013 : OPER       EST   ACTV  AUTO  DES : IPZD_104545_NW
DCH 015 : OPER       EST   ACTV  AUTO  DES : Virtual

I see nothing wrong here....
StoneColdphoneman (TechnicalUser)
23 Dec 08 15:00
There is nothing wrong DCH 10 recovered.
StoneColdphoneman (TechnicalUser)
23 Dec 08 15:02
You can go to LD 22 and print history and see how long was the loop down for.
PeoplesBKTech (TechnicalUser) (OP)
23 Dec 08 15:17
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StoneColdphoneman (TechnicalUser)
23 Dec 08 15:29
From the history File it shows that
DCH054 DCH: 10 EST REMOTE TIME:  2:24:38  23/12/2008
Recovered at 2:24:38  23/12/2008 and it doesn't show when it went down.

Just let it go it's not broken.
 
PeoplesBKTech (TechnicalUser) (OP)
23 Dec 08 15:35
From my first post do you know what

 PBX:NJ:CS - \7\330\14\27\2\30'\0 - 202 -

Means???
StoneColdphoneman (TechnicalUser)
23 Dec 08 15:43
This does not look like any code from the PBX more likely SEB or alarm program that is adding time and location and some other info.
Looks like the Call server is New Jersey that about all I can tell ?
 
PeoplesBKTech (TechnicalUser) (OP)
23 Dec 08 15:44
Thanks for your help>>>
PeoplesBKTech (TechnicalUser) (OP)
29 Dec 08 14:38
Help, How do you stat DTR in LD 34 keep getting the following error all day today...

--> Critical Alarm received at TM!  - 2008 12 29 14 35 08 00 - TDS303 -
--> 516:NY:CS - \7\330\14\35\16#\11\0 - 202 - 036 0 15 00

Anybody know what TDS303 is?
GHTROUT (IS/IT--Management)
29 Dec 08 16:22
Did you look at the commands for LD34 ?

In LD34, typing "stat" alone, returns any disabled DTRs.

What you want to do is "test" using the "DTR" command.

LD 34

.DTR 36 0 15


The LD34 DISR and ENLR commands are used to disable and enable DTRs


Using LD32 you can see the status of each unit in LD32, just as if it was a line card.

LD 32
.STAT 36 0 15

 


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Tman45 (IS/IT--Management)
29 Dec 08 16:57
Here ya go for your errors in your history capture:

As far as your D-channel dropping - maybe no one said anything to you yet, but when carriers add customers to your ring it can cause a D-channel to drop and it is typically after midnight and before 5:00am ... fyi
At least that is what our vendor tells us ;)

TDS0303 l s c (u) Terminal number specified is not designated as a tone detector.
Action:
Severity: Critical. Critical to Monitor: Yes. SNMP trap: Yes

DTC0001 Clock controller tracking on primary source loop.
Action:
Severity: Minor. Critical to Monitor: Yes. SNMP trap: Yes

ERR4291 Music route is undefined.
Action:
Severity: Minor. Critical to Monitor: No. SNMP trap: Yes

ERR0080 tn key Key input from software-unequipped add-on module.
Action: Check SL-1 telephone data. Ensure that add-on module is defined and
that key number is less than last key.
Severity: Minor. Critical to Monitor: Yes. SNMP trap: Yes

ERR0118 Invalid Keymap Download Request for nonexistent add-on module.
Action: Contact your technical support group.
Severity: Minor. Critical to Monitor: No. SNMP trap: Yes
 

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