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 How To NINDY(Physically Reset) Your Pipeline 50, 75, 85

Datacop (IS/IT--Management)
9 Sep 02 1:55
Pipeline® 50 Ethernet-to-ISDN Router Technical Notes

How to NINDY (Reset) the Pipeline 50, 75, and 85 Units
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Table of Contents

Scope
Abstract
Warning
Requirements
Steps
NINDY the Pipeline 50 LS56-2N and Pipeline 50 LS56-(4 wire)
NINDY the Pipeline 50 S-interface
NINDY the Pipeline 50 early models
NINDY the Pipeline 50 early models (type 2)
NINDY the Pipeline 50 later models (serial # 6000000 – 7220000)
NINDY the Pipeline 50 (revision 2 – serial # 7220000 and higher)
NINDY the Pipeline 75
NINDY the Pipeline 75 (revision 2 – serial # 7220000 and higher)
NINDY the Pipeline 85U
Scope

This document applies to the following Ascend products:

The Ascend Pipeline 50, 75, and 85 units
Abstract

The document explains the procedures necessary to physically NINDY (reset) the Pipeline unit to factory default settings.

Warning:

Opening an Ascend product will void the warranty.
For all of the following procedures you must have downloaded the correct software version for the Pipeline and have it ready to be uploaded before you attempt to NINDY the Pipeline.
You must use the X-modem or 1K X-modem protocol for all software uploads.
Requirements

A 9-pin, straight-through serial cable
A VT-100 terminal emulator program which supports X-modem or 1K X-modem file transfers
Familiarity with terminal-program-upload procedures
A jumper
A static-free work space
Access to the Ascend menu interface and familiarity with navigating the menu interface
Steps

1.  NINDY the Pipeline 50 LS56-2N and Pipeline 50 LS56-(4 wire)

With all cables and power removed, open the case and orient the LEDs toward you (the front of the unit is facing you).
Locate the large 1.5" square Motorola chip in the front right corner. At the top left corner of this chip there are 2 pairs of jumper pins. You will need to identify the pins associated with P5 and short them with your jumper.
Attach the power then the serial cable. Configure the terminal software for 57600 bps, no parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, and no flow-control.
You should see a ( PIPE50>) prompt. Type EF and press ENTER . Then type DF and press ENTER. If the EF command returns an error, ignore it.
After initiating the DF command, you should see the CKCKCKCK... sequence repeating across the screen. At this point, upload the correct version of software to the Pipeline, using X-modem or 1K X-modem with your terminal software.
The upload completes after 2-4 minutes. When the upload is complete, power off the unit, remove the jumper, and replace the cover.
Power up the unit, reconfigure your terminal serial port speed back to 9600 bps, bring up the Ascend menu interface, and reconfigure your Pipeline settings.
2.  NINDY the Pipeline 50 S-interface

With all cables and power removed, open the case and orient the LEDs toward you (the front of the unit is facing you).
Locate the large 1.5" square Motorola chip in the front right corner. At the top left corner of this chip there are 2 pairs of jumper pins. You will need to identify the pins associated with P9 and short them with your jumper.
Attach the power then the serial cable. Configure the terminal software for 57600 bps, no parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, and no flow-control.
You should see a (PIPE50>) prompt. Type EF and press ENTER. Then type DF and press ENTER. If the EF command returns an error, ignore it.
After initiating the DF command, you should see the CKCKCKCK... sequence repeating across the screen. At this point, upload the correct version of software to the Pipeline, using X-modem or 1K X-modem with your terminal software.
The upload completes after 2-4 minutes. Once completed, power off the unit, remove the jumper, and replace the cover.
Power up the unit, reconfigure your terminal serial port speed back to 9600 bps, bring up the Ascend menu interface, and reconfigure your Pipeline settings.
3.  NINDY the Pipeline 50 early models

With all cables and power removed, open the case and orient the LEDs toward you (the front of the unit is facing you).
Locate the square chip designated as U17, in the front center of the motherboard. Short the two pins of the chip. One is the right-most pin located on the front face (the side of the chip closest to the front of the Pipeline) of the chip. The second pin is located on the right face of the chip and this is the pin that is closest to the front of the Pipeline. Short the pins using a paperclip or wire.
Attach the power then the serial cable. Configure the terminal software for 57600 bps, No parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, and no flow-control.
You should see a (PIPE50>) prompt. Type EF and press ENTER . Then type DF and press ENTER. If the EF command returns an error, ignore it.
After initiating the DF command, you should see the CKCKCKCK... sequence repeating across the screen. At this point, upload the correct version of software to the Pipeline unit, using X-modem or 1K X-modem with your terminal software.
The upload should be complete after 2-4 minutes. When the upload is complete, power off the unit, remove the jumper, and replace the cover.
Power up the unit, reconfigure your terminal serial port speed back to 9600 bps, bring up the Ascend menu interface, and reconfigure your Pipeline settings.
4.  NINDY the Pipeline 50 early models (Type 2)

With all cables and power removed, open the case and orient the LEDs toward you (the front of the unit is facing you).
At the front left corner are 2 pairs of jumper pins. You will need to identify the pins associated with JP1 and short them with your jumper.
Attach the power then the serial cable. Configure the terminal software for 57600 bps, no parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, and no flow-control.
You should see a (PIPE50>) prompt. Type EF and press ENTER. Then type DF and press ENTER . If the EF command returns an error, ignore it.
After initiating the DF command, you should see the CKCKCKCK... sequence repeating across the screen. At this point, upload the correct version of software to the Pipeline, using X-modem or 1K X-modem with your terminal software.
The upload completes in 2-4 minutes. When the upload is complete, power off the unit, remove the jumper, and replace the cover.
Power up the unit, reconfigure your terminal serial port speed back to 9600 bps, bring up the Ascend menu interface and reconfigure your Pipeline settings.
5.  NINDY the Pipeline 50 later models (Serial # 6000000 - 7220000)

With all cables and power removed, open the case and orient the LEDs toward you (the front of the unit is facing you).
Locate the large 1.5" square Motorola chip in the front right corner. At the top left corner of this chip there are 2 pairs of jumper pins. You will need to identify the pins associated with JP9 or JP6 and short them with your jumper. Note: JP9 and JP6 are located in the exact same location. It is the silkscreen printing on the motherboard that identifies them differently.
Attach the power then the serial cable. Configure the terminal software for 57600 bps, no parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, and no flow-control.
You should see a (PIPE50>) prompt. Type EF and press ENTER. Then type DF and press ENTER . If the EF command returns an error, ignore it.
After initiating the DF command, you should see the CKCKCKCK... sequence repeating across the screen. At this point, upload the correct version of software to the Pipeline, using X-modem or 1K X-modem with your terminal software.
The upload completes in 2-4 minutes. When the upload is complete, power off the unit, remove the jumper, and replace the cover.
Power up the unit, reconfigure your terminal serial port speed back to 9600 bps, bring up the Ascend menu interface, and reconfigure your Pipeline settings.
6.  NINDY the Pipeline 50 (Revision 2 - Serial # 7220000 and higher)

You will need to download an additional file greater than 1MB in size (such as b.m18 from the MAX archives)
With all cables and power removed, open the case and orient the LEDs toward you (the front of the unit is facing you).
Locate the 3 jumper receptacles at the front center of the motherboard. Identify the pins associated with P1. Short the pins of P1 using your jumper.
Attach the power then the serial cable. Configure the terminal software for 57600 bps, no parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, and no flow-control.
You should see a (PIPE75>) prompt. Type DF and press ENTER . After initiating the DF command, you should see the CKCKCKCK... sequence repeating across the screen. At this point, upload the file that is greater than 1MB in size (this file was obtained in Step 6a) to the Pipeline, using X-modem or 1K X-modem with your terminal software. This will clear both the primary and backup flash chips in the Pipeline unit.
When download has completed, type DF and press ENTER . After initiating the DF command again, you should see the CKCKCKCK... sequence repeating across the screen. At this point, upload the correct version of software to the Pipeline, using X-modem or 1K X-modem with your terminal software.
The upload completes in 2-4 minutes. When the upload is complete, power off the unit, remove the jumper, and replace the cover.
Power up the unit, reconfigure your terminal serial port speed back to 9600 bps, bring up the Ascend menu interface, and reconfigure your Pipeline settings.
7.  NINDY the Pipeline 75

Follow the procedures in Step 3.
Note: You will see a (PIPE50>) prompt after powering up the unit. This is normal.

8.  NINDY the Pipeline 75 ( revision 2 – serial # 7220000 and higher)

Follow the procedures in Step 6.
Note: You will see a (PIPE75>) prompt after powering up the unit. This is normal.

9.  NINDY the Pipeline 85U

Follow the procedures in Step 6.
Note: You will see a (PIPE75>) prompt after powering up the unit. This is normal.


Enjoy,
DC
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xattman (TechnicalUser)
5 Mar 03 20:32
Thank you for the informative work around.  I can now configure my p50.  Your efforts here are appreciated!
winningindustries (TechnicalUser)
30 Dec 03 19:25
Where did you get the Firmware from? Lucent makes it quite difficult to download this for an 10 Year outdated product...
regards
stevefyu (ISP)
6 Jan 04 21:06
ftp.ascend.com -> pub -> software-releases
winningindustries (TechnicalUser)
10 Jan 04 16:02
Thanks very much for your reply, it was quite helpful!
Got the firmware and today Lucent rejected my Login... they can keep it

Does anybody know what that mystic slide on the back is all about?


regards
MaxPipeline (Vendor)
10 Jan 04 19:27
The slide switch is only on older rev1 boxes.  From what I was told, it was for a possible feature that was never implemented.  So basically it does nothing.
cheviman (MIS)
23 Jan 04 4:10
Hi,
thanks for for this forum from my side.
Some days ago I bought a used pipeline 75 at a very low price.
Unfortunately the seller had forgotten to clear the password, so I started to search for a hack.
With NINDY I found it.

As many colleagues may have recovered too, NINDY is not so straight forward as described.
Reason is the big number of different modells.
Even in the Ascend Firmware Upgrade documentation there is sometimes p50, sometimes p75 to be loaded...

When I read the instructions above to locate the Jumpers, I found out:

There is not always inside, what is labled outside.
My Pipeline 75 has a Pipeline 50 labled board inside.
And it is not step 3 for NINDY, but step 4 for "very old modell of Pipeline 50.
So my hint: Always look to the board label to identify the right modell for NINDY procedures
MaxPipeline (Vendor)
24 Jan 04 1:40
It is not uncommon to find P75s with P50 labeled boards.  Hardware-wise, they are identical.  The only real difference is the P50 has the POTS ports disabled via hashcode.  Just FYI.
inetmaster (MIS)
24 Feb 04 12:33
I've been able to NINDY Lucent pipeline 50's before. Only, I have a router now that seems to be impervious. It's a 9XXXXXX serial number (so rev2) running the +8.0-101.2+ firmware.

The PIPE75> prompt comes up then the CKCK after typing df, I get it to download the file and error out. Then, I upload the firmware again, power down, take out the jumper, and power back up. The whole config is still there.

I've even tried putting on different firmware etc. Nothing seems to work.

PS: The ef command seems to do nothing.

What am I doing wrong, can anyone recommend something?
tjenicek (Programmer)
20 Apr 04 8:39
intemaster, i'm having the same problems. did you ever get a reply? also, how do i identify the max version - 800/1600/2000/4000/6000 series?

thanks in advance
brendnat (IS/IT--Management)
10 May 04 13:01
Can anyone tell me where to find the b.m18 in Max Archives
robin1871 (TechnicalUser)
11 Jun 04 15:37
I cannot find a default password for my ascend p75.  I started the jump but I am not sure where I'm supposed to see the df prompt?  Is it on the software or the command prompt screen?  I have 6 of these and they all have passwords.  Is there anyone in Houston that could help me?
peterbokunet (TechnicalUser)
1 Nov 04 0:18
greetings

I've done the nindy with other pipelines before, but I have a 732xxxx in front of me that spits junk back at me when I try to df the larger image:
...
### Send (X) b.m18: Got burst for sector ACK
### Send (X) b.m18: Retry Count Exceeded

and then a load of ERROR's as it spews the rest of the xmodem transfer into the PIPE75> prompt.

Does anyone have any ideas what's up with this critter?

Thanks,
Unixcowboy (TechnicalUser)
7 Mar 05 0:07
Peterbokunet,

You CANNOT load a 'fat' load via serial port and Xmodem...
Go to
ftp://ftp.ascend.com/pub/Software-Releases/{your model}

get a copy of the software that is SMALLER than 448K
---several are equal to 448K and will load ---

Then set a tftp server and have the Pipe get the FAT load...

Hope this helps...

    Meanwhile -
I seem to have LOST the configuration menu on my own 75.
Anyone know how to get THAT back ???

     Thanks
Unixcowboy

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